Women “would have their uteruses removed when they turn over 30,” Naoki Hyakuta, leader of the Conservative Party of Japan, said in a stream on his YouTube channel on Friday.

On the channel, he also said that he would make it law for “women who are single after 25 years old not to be allowed to marry.”

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Later, Hyakuta posted an apology on his X account. “I cannot deny that the expressions were too harsh,” he said. “I apologize for those who were offended.”

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    Right, so to fight the declining birthrate, they entertain the idea that women over 25 should not be allowed to marry. And on top of that, women over the ripe, old age of 30 get their uteruses removed.

    I am sure this totally would serve as an incentive to breed more and not at all make existing problems worse.

    What a baka.

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      Right? It doesn’t even make sense for their own world view. I kind of suspect a translation mistake, but then again there seems to be no limit to conservative idiocy.

      The only way it makes sense is to create an environment where women out of FOMO Mary and give birth early.

      Also imagine asking the same thing for men lol these people would lose their mind. But that’s just the usual hypocrisy

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        They reason (and I want to stress that it’s their ideology, not mine) that men can keep doing crotchspawn when they are old. So the obvious solution is to force girls to marry and get breeded by men off all ages. /s but unfortunately not so much

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          men can keep doing crotchspawn when they are old.

          But if women can’t, why would there be need for sterilization?

          I know you’re probably right, just trying to point out the absurdity.

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            Risk of developmental difficulties increases with mother’s age.

            Father’s age too, but I think that’s a lesser impact.

            Also, having a threat towards women (but not men!) is just part of the selling point.

            I’m not at all saying that these are good arguments, but they might be the motivating factor. Personally, I think it’s mostly about the threat to women.

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    What the fuck is even going on here, this doesn’t even align with their own weird agenda? This just seems psychotic for it’s own sake.

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        Or let her die on the way
        Because a not child bearing mother is worthless anyway it seems

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      Shock and Awe. He will say some heinous shit in a few days that’s slightly less evil and that will sound reasonable to the rightoids

      Basically how Trump speech got normalized in the west.

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    Maybe a Japanese politician should be aware of his country’s history on the matter before discussing forced sterilization…

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      If he’s anything like American conservatives he probably appreciates the comparison more than anything

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    Just in case anyone is wondering, this is a fringe right-wing party with one seat in Japanese Parliament’s lower house.

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      This is how it started in most EU countries: one MP who is an idiot, but gains in representation every election by also taking advantage of the contradictions of governing. These idiots did not use to grow, but now they do…and they are networked too now.

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        From one seat in my country to almost having a full right wing government in the last elections. Yeah, it’s not gonna end well for nobody if this shit keeps going up everywhere.

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      this is a fringe right-wing party with one seat in Japanese Parliament’s lower house.

      One seat too many, if this is the attitude of their leader.

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      good point, but I worry about a loop of the media giving attention, making people more aware that this party exists, ignorant people give them more support, repeat. seems like a similar strategy happened in the us with our media giving trump endless headlines.

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    A meaningful number of people globally want “revenge” on COVID. They are impotently raging along with the nearest angry person they can attach to. They don’t understand their feelings but they feel generally cheated. Many real issues layered on to, but that’s the motivating foundation.

    They also are failed adults that just want a “daddy” to feel like he will make things better or “beat up” problems on their behalf (or more likely just make them feel like that’s happening, regardless of reality).

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    As a single (gay) woman over 30 who’s tired of having a uterus I’m moving to japan lmfao

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    Smart move for a country with a birth rate going off the cliffs and a terminal case of xenophobism.

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      My assumption is this is to increase the birth rate. The birth rate over 30 is probably lower, and putting a deadline forces you into a FOMO situation. You fear the consequences, so you just get married and have children.

      Obviously, this is horrible for human rights (if you consider the rights of women to be human rights, which I at least do). I’m just saying it may be better for births than it appears. It’s like video games restricting sale of items can increase sales of them. The human brain is easily manipulated by FOMO, especially with something this severe I’d imagine.

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        The birth rate over 30 is probably lower, and putting a deadline forces you into a FOMO situation.

        I’ve a heard a similar theory explaining why some (U.S.) Republicans want to ban fertility treatments: FOMO to have kids younger because you might not be able to later.

        I personally think this will not work out the way they plan it to, bu there is a twisted train of thought behind it.

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    Free tube tying for everyone above 25? I knew about some villages in poor rural India and african countries that did this to limit teen pregnancy and over population. The complete opposite of what Japan is dealing with

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      I’ve been saying it since 2015, but it bears repeating!

      The global conservative propaganda machine — lead by the US and Russia — is using all of the data obtained from surveillance capitalism to target, A/B test, and iterate on psychological warfare across social media in real-time (as close to as the platforms allow). The most criminally corrupt and sociopathic benefit the most, as there is no limit to how depraved they will go — bots, lies, disinformation, deep fakes, utilizing actual criminal enterprises and scam operations, illegally obtained data — they will do whatever it takes to succeed.

      There really isn’t much difference between persuading you to buy a product and persuading you to vote for a political party; they both attack similar weaknesses and vulnerabilities, and the process of building the data pipelines and statistical models is nearly identical. People who knew history were always saying that this is what surveillance capitalism would lead to eventually. I don’t think any of us thought it would happen so quickly, but the lack of regulation and highly centralized nature of social media meant that a relatively small operation could access 90% of the Internet using population.

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        Persuading you to vote for their guy, or if you’re disinclined to do so, persuading you to not vote by instilling disgust/outrage (see also: “Genocide Joe”) or just a blackpilled sense of powerlessness.

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      Russian state media just showed nudes of Trump’s wife during prime time tv.

      We’re in a weird spot.

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        And many of us men are just as baffled by it. I honestly don’t understand why there are so many men – who I’m sure shutter at any mention of a woman’s period – that feel the need to control every aspect of reproduction and do so in the most cruel ways.

        But also, the women who voted in support of those men are exponentially more baffling to me.

        My brain hurts trying to understand it.

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          Imagine being told every minute of every day that you don’t matter. That as a woman, your only purpose is to glorify men, support men, breed more men. That it’s the greatest and highest calling of women to surrender your life and your choices to men.

          That women are stupid and sinners because of Eve’s actions, and will be forever. So you can never be allowed any kind of authority, because like Eve you’ll just do something foolish or abuse it.

          Now imagine everyone and everything around you shows and supports this worldview. All the time.

          That’s where it comes from. When something is all you’ve ever known, then it’s normal. And, even if you consciously don’t believe it, it still worms its way inside of you.

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      Unchecked access to the internet by people who aren’t emotionally mature enough to handle it.

      Allowing all of humanity onto the internet when 30% of people still believe chocolate milk comes from brown cows was a mistake.

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        To be fair, chocolate milk comes from milk.

        Milk comes from cows.

        Most cows are at least partially brown, many 50% or more brown.

        Conversly, albino cows constitute a small portion of the milk supply.

        So it is, arguably, a correct statement.

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        Allowing all of humanity onto the internet when 30% of people still believe chocolate milk comes from brown cows was a mistake.

        You are referrering to children. Right? And I’ve lived a considerable amount of my life taking this as an urban legend. Not a fact.

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          Here’s a real number. 56% of Americans read at or below a sixth grade reading level.

          When complex topics like the economy are discussed, _at least _ 56% can’t comprehend the concepts because they lack the vocabulary. They do not understand how government works, or their own bodies, or diplomacy, or historical contexts. They are not capable of being part of many important national conversations.

          Now couple this with the fact that Democrats are terrible at messaging and simplifying complex policy into digestible sound bites while Republicans have perfected it, and you can easily see how we get to where we are now.

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            My sincere apologies upfront for my next sentence: I do not fathom what 6th grade reading level entails. Not in the USofA nor in my little barbarian european country.

            What I am aware is that children’s books and how they are taught to read is a diservice for them, with an overwhelming(ab)use of unnecessary images and infantilizing story telling.

            This isn’t an argument to have children read “War and Peace” as a bed time story but kids could dispense with all the garbage being thrown at them (including school text books) and most parents happily buy them and instead having something that actually challenges intelectually.

            And using a dictionary doesn’t hurt, unless you drop it on your toes.

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              In America they seem to prefer banning books that might cause some sort of empathy or critical thought.

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          My apologies. I totally flipped some numbers. It’s actually 7% of people (not children) surveyed believe that chocolate milk is from brown cows.

          Now the survey wasn’t too robust with 5000 total respondents but it’s still embarrassing that that number isn’t like “Seven American adults in total believe chocolate milk is from brown cows”

          Here’s a CNN fluff piece on it https://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/16/us/chocolate-milk-help-trnd/index.html

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            No need to apologize. At best, I have to do it, because you managed to make me laugh while at the same time lose a little bit of hope for humanity.

            How can someone be that uninformed?!

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      WTF is even happening in this article? An official / novelist says “women would have their uteruses removed” and there is no additional context? Is he describing a fictional future? What? Why is this presented as some kind of news? What’s this “would” phrasing? Would under what conditions?

      Before we panic about the world let’s get some basic context to this drivel. How does sterilizing women over 30 address population decline, even in the most bizarre fictional speculations?

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        I think that the idea is that by setting a strict deadline after which women can’t have children or marry, they are forced to start a family now or risk regretting it later. That’s the only way I can make sense of this bizarre scenario.

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          I guess maybe… It’s a ridiculously terrible notion no matter what your priorities are.