• sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
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    21 days ago

    In Texas, we call this lying… I don’t know when the goal post got moved but these parasites have always been lying to us the pedons.

    Why do peasant accept or listen to these clowns? They are your enemy, treat them as such.

    But now… pleb has his daddy who is good, and other pleb’s daddy is bad 🤡

    “me daddy strong, me daddy kick ur daddy ass”

    ADULT FUCKING PEOPLE IN 2024

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      I don’t know when the goal post got moved

      January 22nd 2017. When Kellyanne Conway used the term “alternative facts”

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        I would say after ww2 after modern propaganda tactics went main stream across the world.

        But it didn’t happen over night, it was a process to get us here.

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        20 days ago

        Alternative facts, alternative liftoff, alternative attack, alternative growth, alternative survival

        (It’s just a joke in Russia about state media using the word “negative” instead of alternative is similar cases to describe things falling apart)

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    21 days ago

    I don’t think Musk would disagree with that definition and I bet he even likes it.

    The key word here is “significant”. That’s the part that clearly matters to him, based on his actions. I don’t care about the man and I don’t think he’s a genius, but he does not look stupid or delusional either.

    Musk spreads disinformation very deliberately for the purpose of being significant. Just as his chatbot says.

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    21 days ago

    The ultra powerful see us as NPCs, and nothing more.

    Your anger is barely a pop up window on the game they’re playing.

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    He lies to assert power. In his company yesmen say yes because he pays their checks. To the rest of us he generally looks like a loon.

    It’s obvious to a daft AI.

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    21 days ago

    Doesn’t matter when Russian military cuts internet undersea cables. Leon has the only working web connection tech then.

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      Actually they made a new department of “Government Oversight” for him…

      Which sounds scummy, but it’s basically ju8st a department that looks for places to cut the budget and reduce waste… not a bad idea, except it’s Right Wingers running it so “Food” would be an example of frivolous spending and “Planes that don’t fly” would be what they’re looking to keep the cash flowing on

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          With Musk what he’d see as wasteful is… anything that isn’t his fucking kickbacks or programs that make his ex-wife start returning his calls.

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            He said he was gonna cut the federal budget by ~30%, or roughly two trillion dollars. I saw an economist say that if you fired Every. Single. Govt. Employee it still wouldn’t save two trillion dollars. It’s just absolutely insane.

            Sharpen up the 'tines, me hearties. The time is nigh.

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      21 days ago

      Even more accurately: it’s bullshit.

      “Lie” implies that the person knows the truth and is deliberately saying something that conflicts with it. However the sort of people who spread misinfo doesn’t really care about what’s true or false, they only care about what further reinforces their claims or not.

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          Federation woes?

          Your comment has a different take though, and adding value to the discussion, it isn’t just the same as I said. Both are complementary.

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            And this right here is why I like the Fediverse. Not immediately presuming the absolute worst case scenario and confidently asserting such, refusing to hear anything to the contrary? Offering kindness as well as accuracy in your answer? You didn’t go for the jugular in trying (even if failing) to “pwn” your victim!? You, sir, would make a very bad modern Redditor 🤪. Which is why I hope you stay here, where I can keep getting to read amazingly kind replies like these:-).

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      The difference is, that with lies, you have to know it is untrue and say it anyway, where with misinformation, there is a possibility that the one telling it believes it is true.

      Well that is how I understand the word lying defined: Say something you know is not true in order to manipulate others.

      Or again different said: a lie is always misinformation, but misinformation is not always a lie.

      Hope that is understandable 😇

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        That is why I try to think now in terms of disinformation, more than merely misinformation, when it seems intentional.

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    Implying he gives a shit. The thing about people who lack any empathy is they’re immune to embarrassment even when they’re the most embarrassing human on the planet.

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      This is nothing to do with “empathy” and everything to do with class…

      And yet normie pleb can’t understand the concept of a class war while literally getting fucked in the ass, no lube of course because that’s socialism

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        If he keeled over dead SpaceX would keep functioning as it is held up by the actual employees who do the actual work. All a CEO does is provide goals, directions, and demands for more profits. They’re a glorified overpaid manager and those are not in short supply.

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                You are fucking funny. Sure he has the time to run three corporations, raise his ten kids, and now be involved in the US government. Plus he spends an exorbitant amount of time on Twitter and doing drugs. Not to mention chasing his employees around trying to impregnate them.

                What, in fact, does he actually do Infiniteasshole?

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            In all fairness, Musk was pretty effective at fundraising and getting government contracts

            At this point, he’s just a liability. He once walked in, demanded to rethink everything and meet an unreasonable deadline, and slept in his office for the duration. SpaceX is made up of people who are passionate about what they do, and it worked…But that’s a one time thing. My boss asks me to push myself to the limits to save us both? I will, and I have. It has a real cost, it takes a lot of time to recover from, and a little bit of your health is just gone for good

            Elon did that… But then got high on the smell of his shit. They created a unit to distract him, because he learned the wrong lesson, he thought that was good management. That is not effective management - that’s a desperate gamble for survival. Repeat it, and you’ve shown yourself to be incompetent as a leader

            Then came the bigoted social network unmasking… That made him a liability reputation wise, his formerly greatest strength

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            Sure a CEO does other shit. It’s all the same stuff a manager would do. You really think that if daddy Musk vanished the literal rocket scientists working there wouldn’t be able to keep doing their work? The trained accountants and managerial staff would curl up under their desks unable to carry on? The value of a CEO is both real, and extremely overstated. They’d have a new CEO before the end of the month.

            In a nutshell, yes he runs the company. No it isn’t some badge of genius, he manages a company. Many other people are just as, if not more qualified.

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                I already know you aren’t going to change your mind, and I already answered your initial question, so why would I keep arguing with the proverbial village idiot?

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              Honestly a big credit to the people working there is just how many highly evaluated start ups of former SpaceX employees there are. Just a bunch a talented people given an opportunity to use it

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              Yes, he’s doing it. And all those other guys aren’t (in fact they look rather petty in comparison). So yes, I give him credit. Bigass credit.

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    Chatbots can’t “admit” things. They regurgitate text that just happens to be information a lot of the time.

    That said, the irony is iron clad.

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        Ah yes, Hanlon’s razor. Genuinely a great one to keep in mind at all times, along with it’s corollary Clarke’s law: “Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.”

        But in this particular case I think we need the much less frequently cited version by Douglas Hubbard: “Never attribute to malice or stupidity that which can be explained by moderately rational individuals following incentives in a complex system.”

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        To that I’d say, “don’t attribute to ignorance what can easily be explained by greed”

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          What does greed have to do with spreading misinformation? Even the term itself implies ignorance. If it was intentional it would be called disinformation.

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          The saying works for day to day random bullshit. Not when a cocksucker buys a media outlet specifically to spread lies.

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        adequately explained.

        The ignorance doesn’t explain where all the money comes from. So malice it is! Lol

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          We’re talking about spreading misinformation, which by definition implies ignorance. If it was intentional it would be called disinformation.

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            Misinformation is not defined by the knowledge of the one who spreads it (like if the spreader knows that it is wrong), it is therefore a useful word to use in journalism, since, if you would say it is lie or disinformation, you would have to be able to prove that or the victim of your text can sue you for misusing your credibility to spread misinformation (yea, funny irony here) and force you to take the story down.

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        Don’t contribute to ignorance that which can be easily explained by malice and is much more likely to be malice due to their history of malice. The guy is King of bitter malice, the fuck are you saying

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    Elon Mush: too rich to care.

    ok ok, Mostly too rich to care, he’s pretty thin skinned.

    Seriously though, when he was forced to complete the purchase of twitter, I thought he was just an idiot who couldn’t run a company. Over the years, I’ve come to believe that he’s an idiot who doesn’t care about anything but staying rich and none of the really stupid stuff he’s doing pushes the needle.

    He’s still an idiot, but if it doesn’t break him, he just wants the attention and more opportunities to make more money.

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    Come on guys, this was clearly the work of the Demtards hacking his AI and making it call him names. We all know his superior intellect will totally save the world and make it a better place, you just gotta let him go completely unchecked to do it.

    /s

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      not so funny thing to say anymore, since there are people who would say stuff like this seriously