/me looks at downvotes from trying to convince people to talk to Trump voters to see if they can be persuaded to, and everyone thinking I mean talk to the people who’s mind cannot be changed

Yep

Well it seems multiple people interpreted it that way so you might want to work on your wording

So you support rape?

Can I authorize everyone in the country for access please

Russia says there’s going to be no peace talks without recognizing the new boundaries so, might as well carve out a big part of Russia for the Ukraine

I’m not saying go talk to the hardcore MAGA cultists mate. I’m saying seek to understand motivations and be open to dialogue if they can be convinced (ie. Former democrats voters). All I’m saying is coming with “stupid” right off the bat doesn’t help anyone.

I do insult 45 because no matter what I do or say I’m not going to convince him. I think the Muslims who voted for 45 again in my state, however, CAN be convinced

Excuse me? Are you saying you gave up on your students?

You are focusing on Trump bad. Focus on “what can the Democratic Party do to be more appealing to voters?” The answer is be more like AOC - show you care about the working class.

https://www.thewrap.com/aoc-asks-constituents-why-they-voted-trump

Read it

See other post. I voted for Harris. I thought an insurrection was enough to convince the populate not to vote for a traitor and I was wrong.

Socially shaming people doesn’t all work. It made me NOT vote for Clinton in 2016. What made me vote for Biden in 2020 and Harris in 2024 is every thing that happened during Trumps presidency. I learned my lesson then.

Democrats’ attitudes at the time, much like the person calling Muslims dumb, was a big factor in me choosing not to vote for Clinton back then.

I’m trying to prevent that same thing happening to other people - especially a voting bloc that can sway my state.

There are paths to personal growth that don’t involve being a dick to others

First off all, I didn’t vote for the orange turd. Let’s get that out of the way.

Second of all, there is PLENTY to criticize on the conservative side but I don’t want to see another fascist in office so I’m trying to improve the liberal side.

Muslims had a SIGNIFICANT impact on the results in my state. You are minimizing their core issue - getting democrats to actually support not killing Muslims in Gaza. Thats it

What does calling people dumb accomplish? Get them to hate you?

Why don’t you do something productive like help them recognize scams?

You are the reason I dislike liberals.

You just look down on other people instead of trying to understand why they did what they did.

Be more like AOC. She asked her constituents that voted for both her and Trump why they voted for Trump so that she could understand them.

It looks like your memory doesn’t extend before 2020. If you can recall further, you will remember that jokes in the 2020+ era may not be considered jokes in the 2016-2020 era

Thank you. I don’t mark my sarcasm and I thought I was going to get my post removed for misinformation again lol

What the hell are you talking about?

The president-elect has no idea what Gaetz looks like. The president-elect doesn’t even know Gaetz. The president-elect has never considered Gaetz for AG. The president-elect and Gaetz have never met.

I get that. I was just trying to have a positive outlook

In tatters?

Mate up until I saw the election results, I associated myself with moderate conservatives. After the election, I’m trying to reconcile with the fact that my county, my state, and my government elected Trump again.

Like, the part of me that wants to claim conservative fully supports your right to vote whoever you think is right.

But we voted him out in 2020?

Like how do you vote for someone who incited an insurrection?

How do you vote for someone who nominated a judge to the Supreme Court and then tried to waive the background check? Pick someone else on the shortlist or let the process prove him innocent.

How do you vote for someone who nominated a judge wjth so little federal court experience to the Supreme Court?

How do you vote for someone who nominated someone who nominated Aileen Cannon? She has made a mockery of the legal system.

How do you nominate someone with so many scandals you can’t even remember all of them? And is guilty of at least some of those through a court of law?

How do you vote for someone with which there is picture proof of him being friendly on multiple occasions with a pedophile/sex trafficker?

And yes, I’ve never been a CHRISTIAN conservative because I’m not Christian. But what the fuck are they trying to conserve? Off the top of my head, he is trying to topple the rule of law, precedence, trying to bypass the senate confirmation process, already ignored the norm by not welcoming Biden in 2020? He tried to dismantle the post office ffs.

His choices directly led to Dobbs. If you are against abortion, don’t get one. It was that fucking simple. Now, I have others beliefs hoisted upon me. What happened to separation of church and state? What happened to the American value of freedom of religion?

Did they not take the same civics class I took in high school? Do they not have brains? Like what the fuck is going on here that I don’t understand. 47 already showed us what kind of disaster he was as 45. Does nobody remember how he handled COVID?

Like how can I be an independent conservative when so many of my “fellow” conservatives voted for the antithesis of the status quo?

Yes, I get that we shouldn’t be afraid to challenge the status quo where needed but there is almost literally no benefit to anyone by his decisions. Shouldn’t the government make the country better and not worse? Like he is taking us into the past with no improvement

Unless you live in a red state, it doesn’t matter. It requires a simple majority to confirm.

Whitmer was great during the Trump era (As a conservative, who the fuck decided to vote Trump after he literally shown us what type of president he was as 45. I’m starting to believe I’m not conservative now), as someone who looked logical and counter to Trumps stupid handling of COVID. But then Biden became president and, well, she capitulates too much to corporations. One sticking point for me is that along I94 she is planning to take away a lane for everybody (not bad in and of itself) and make it an autonomous vehicle testing lane. She takes from the people, doesn’t give the people an alternative, and gives to the corporations.

Buttigieg? He’s the ACB of politicians - he doesn’t have enough experience.

I want someone who is willing to use the system to its full extent and fix it (system including it here):

-Warren -AOC