I dont care who leads democrats, fight for progressive leadership https://www.gp.org/
In before “But… but… Bernie…”
I love Sanders like a brother, but a) he’s too old, he’ll be EIGHTY-SEVEN in 2028. And b) He’s just not healthy enough after having his heart stented in 2019.
Shit, I am decades younger and I couldn’t keep a campaign schedule after my heart surgery either(!)
Warren? 79 in 2028.
We don’t need more octogenarians in office.
In before “But… but… Bernie…”
Where are you seeing that often?
Every onc and a while I’ll see a comment wanting him to run, but it usually only has one up vote, a shit ton of down votes, and comments from progressives explaining how Bernie shouldn’t run.
I don’t see the pre-emptive need for your comment.
Right here:
You think a post saying Bernie would have won 2024 means that people think he should run in 2028?
I’m not following…
I’m saying Bernie supporters gonna Bernie. Hence “In before…”
Bernie was no more capable of winning '24 than '28. Fans will still float the idea.
I swear, it’s like the Ron Paul fanbase all over again.
So your problem is the author?
Why link the Lemmy post then with comments that agreed with what I said?
Bernie was no more capable of winning '24 than '28
The thing is, we’re all talking about people wanting Bernie to run in 2028.
And for “proof” of that supposedly being popular…
You linked an article about how he would have won in 2024, and you’re saying he couldn’t and can’t win 2028 either?
I feel like we’re having two different conversations here
I’m saying Bernie fans are going to be Bernie fans, and if you read my top comment the “in before” clearly means “this comment takes place before any Bernie fans say he should run in '28”.
https://www.wikihow.com/Inb4-Meaning
Supporting that statement is the link showing Bernie fans saying he would have won in '24.
Give up. Your arguing with frothing at the mouth Bernie supporters who will down vote anything you say that could even be perceived as negative.
FWIW, I heard him on NPR back in 2015 and had no idea who was speaking.
“LOL. This idiot out hear speaking the truth. He’s going to get smeared. Who is this fool?”
Inb4” (short for “in before”) is used to predict something that will be posted by another user.
Right.
And I said:
Every onc and a while I’ll see a comment wanting him to run, but it usually only has one up vote, a shit ton of down votes, and comments from progressives explaining how Bernie shouldn’t run.
And to prove me wrong…
You linked a post where everyone was saying Bernie shouldn’t have won in 2028.
I dunno man, maybe I blocked some accounts and aren’t seeing the same thing on that link as you.
But it doesn’t seem like we’re going to work this one out.
“A” post? I’ve seen the same dumbass post 84 times in the last 48 hours. It’s a lemmy thing I guess.
In before “But… but… Bernie…”
I really don’t see anyone saying this…?
Yeah, a lot of people (myself included) feel like he was robbed of the nomination, but I haven’t really seen anyone on the left advocating he run again. The great tragedy of Sanders is that we rejected him at the perfect time for his message (and at a time when the country needed him most), and now it’s too late.
Of course that doesn’t mean he should be ignored, it just seems like most progressives understand ee need a younger candidate with Sanders’ ideals to shape the future of the party, not Sanders himself.
I mean, it’s right here:
Fuck Shapiro.
Fuck Newsom.
Harris better not ever show her face in a primary ever again after losing to Trump.
Buttiegieg is cool.
Fuck Beshear.
Fuck JB Pritzker.
Whitmer is cool.
Ro Khanna is alright.
Walz would probably be cool as long as he had a strong VP.
I am unfamiliar with Moore.
Fuck Fetterman.
Hey politico - why no fucking AoC? Why does this list look so full of neoliberal assholes that’ll clearly lose to whoever the fuck the GOP puts up?
AOC has just turned 35. Although she is eligible, I wouldn’t be surprised if some people want to avoid voting for someone who would still be under 40.
She might have her own priorities, also, and not want to try too early, because if she gets the nomination and fails, she might not get another one. She seems smart enough to only pick fights she can win. Chuck Schumer is no spring chicken and his term ends in 2028. I could see AOC taking that seat it she wants, serving 2 terms in the Senate, and still be in her early 50’s for a Presidential or VP run.
If Trump has taught us anything, it’s that Americans have a growing appetite for “unconventional” candidates. A 40-year-old waitress from the Bronx is about as far from conventional as Trump (albeit in the opposite direction), but the more time she spends chasing Senate seats and climbing the political ladder, the more dulled that “political outsider” edge gets.
I think she should take a shot at 2028 — or at the very least, run for DNC chair next year. Someone like her directing political strategy would help younger and more progressive Democrats gain ground in local and congressional elections which could finally help shift the party back out of its corporate-sponsored neo-liberal rut and towards actual progressivism.
Trump was a celebrity with name recognition. I think there’s more to it than unconventional.
You have a point, although I don’t exactly think the position of DNC chair screams “I’m an outsider”…
You’re right, it doesn’t. But if we can transform the party into one that’s focused on running younger and more progressive candidates, then the DNC at large will start to look less like a crusty party of “good old boys” and more like an actual grassroots movement of “outsiders”. That’s what I’d like to see for the future of the DNC and I think AOC would be a good face for that movement.
but the more time she spends chasing Senate seats and climbing the political ladder, the more dulled that “political outsider” edge gets.
I think it’s possible to serve in Congress and still be considered a political outsider. It’s not easy, the secret seems to be a strong commitment to principles outside of the mainstream but at least a couple of people have done it.
Bernie has been in the legislative branch since 91 and was in state government for a decade before that. Being a political outsider is still part of his appeal. On the other end of the spectrum Ron Paul was first elected to the House in 76 and retired from politics in 2013 without ever having become a political insider.
Fuck Buttigieg and fuck Whitmer too.
Why?
Whitmer was great during the Trump era (As a conservative, who the fuck decided to vote Trump after he literally shown us what type of president he was as 45. I’m starting to believe I’m not conservative now), as someone who looked logical and counter to Trumps stupid handling of COVID. But then Biden became president and, well, she capitulates too much to corporations. One sticking point for me is that along I94 she is planning to take away a lane for everybody (not bad in and of itself) and make it an autonomous vehicle testing lane. She takes from the people, doesn’t give the people an alternative, and gives to the corporations.
Buttigieg? He’s the ACB of politicians - he doesn’t have enough experience.
I want someone who is willing to use the system to its full extent and fix it (system including it here):
-Warren -AOC
Three people known for their ability to raise donations from the wealthy and corporations in exchange for neo liberal policy Dem voters don’t want…
Absolutely - and topped by fucking Shapiro of all people.
What’s really fucked is they’re all talking about how NH is so important…
The attention the party’s bench has showered on New Hampshire is both a blatant acknowledgment of future aspirations — “You all know how to pick a president,” Shapiro said during his breakfast stump — and a clear message that Biden’s attempt to strip the state of its spot atop the primary lineup in 2024 has not diminished its power in the presidential process going forward.
Despite the DNC (which all of these candidates are cozy with) just took their primary delegates away less than a year.
Buttigieg/AOC 2028. Never forget that despite looking like a choir boy, Mayor Pete is a bulldog. Love watching him regularly demolish frothing Republicans. AOC is great at/for a lot of things, but at the top of the ticket, she’s got too many cheap, easy character weaknesses. Too young. Her voice. Her big-time speeches, like at the DNC, show she’s an unpolished orator. No executive experience.
Other than her voice (I like it, but many people find it annoying), all of those flaws would go away if she serves as VP for 4-8 years.
If Newsom is the democrat’s candidate, I will vote third party. Fuck that guy.
deleted by creator
I would never vote for the Green Party after watching two decades of their utter disregard for political calculus while being both supercilious and patronizing about it. If the party’s behavior wasn’t enough, their supporters are utterly obnoxious, self-congratulatory egotists.
I fully intend to support nearly any candidate running against a green party candidate at the local and regional level, and will happily make political donations to any organization running ads and/or mobilizing on-the-ground efforts against the green party. The green party has been one long abysmal failure after Nader/LaDuke.
They certainly don’t need my help to die, but I’ll help dig the grave anyway.
