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    Is this the “Find out” stage then?

    Actions have consequences. Sad people had to figure it out this way.

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      Years of GOP meddling with education, which is only gonna nose dive when dept of education gets dismantled

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        You’re not swallowing toothpaste. I don’t know enough about the effects of fluoride to agree or disagree with the removal. Being a guy with healthy teeth, a …few years under his belt and living on well water for damn near all of them, I’m pretty comfortable saying leave it in the toothpaste where it’ll have fewer unintended consequences

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          It has been proven in repeated studies that fluoride in the water helps prevent tooth issues for children in low income families.

          There is much less fluoride in water than in toothpaste, so the swallowing comparison is a little bit extra.

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          I don’t know enough about the effects of fluoride to agree or disagree with the removal

          Then why even comment on it? You realize that there are people who do know a lot about this stuff. Like they’ve dedicated their lives to studying it. And I imagine you could even find their published research online. You know, like actual science? Do you remember how the scientific method works?

          But nah, instead you’ll just make an unwarrantedly confident comment about something you know nothing about based on “vibes”

          Just like American voters.

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        RFK Jr, who is likely to be our new head of health and human services, wants to ban it nationally.

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        Unfortunately RFK isn’t all wrong on this one. Recent evidence is showing it is indeed linked to neurological issues… Furthermore the effects are kind of negated by fluoride in the toothpaste.

        https://keck.usc.edu/news/fluoride-exposure-during-pregnancy-linked-to-increased-risk-of-childhood-neurobehavioral-problems-study-finds/

        The long-awaited report released Wednesday comes from the National Toxicology Program, part of the Department of Health and Human Services. It summarizes […] that drinking water containing more than 1.5 milligrams of fluoride per liter is consistently associated with lower IQs in kids.

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        Since 2015, federal health officials have recommended a fluoridation level of 0.7 milligrams per liter of water, and for five decades before the recommended upper range was 1.2. The World Health Organization has set a safe limit for fluoride in drinking water of 1.5.

        https://apnews.com/article/fluoride-water-brain-neurology-iq-0a671d2de3b386947e2bd5a661f437a5

        These margins are razor thin.

        https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/still-need-fluoride-drinking-water-benefits-may-waning-study-suggests-rcna173790

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          Respectfully, I’m going to be immediately suspicious of any study that uses IQ as the measuring standard. IQ is not an objective measure of intelligence or cognitive ability. The same person taking the test will probably have a different score every time they take it. I’m not saying fluoride does or does not have an effect on cognitive ability or intelligence. But IQ is hardly going to be the way to figure that out.

          Edit: I also don’t know how you’d conclude it’s fluoride and not literally anything else they’re consuming.

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              You only linked one? The other is referenced in an article. The way these studies were conducted and the populations used does not immediately translate to fluoride being the issue since that wasn’t the only variable. It’s worth exploring, but it’s really not enough to change decades of dental hygiene improvements.

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          The researchers analyzed 229 mother-child pairs, calculating fluoride exposure from urine samples collected during the third trimester of pregnancy. Most urine samples were collected from fasting women, which improves the accuracy of chemical testing. Children were then assessed at age three using the Preschool Child Behavior Checklist, which uses parent reports to measure a child’s social and emotional functioning.

          Children exposed to an additional 0.68 milligrams per liter of fluoride in the womb were 1.83 times more likely to show behavioral problems considered to be clinically significant or borderline clinically significant. Specifically, children exposed to more fluoride had more problems with emotional reactivity, somatic complaints (such as headaches and stomachaches), anxiety and symptoms linked to autism.

          No association was found with several other neurobehavioral symptoms, including “externalizing behaviors” such as aggression and attention problems.

          Hmm, they are using a statistic as their study and parental reporting… what with PFOAs, pthalates, microplastics and parabens already present in water linked as endocrine disrupters I wonder how that plays over top of all of this fluoride as well.

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    I love it. America’s last hope and people failed. Fuck this place. Let the civil war begin.

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    This is all bullshit, designed to start another wave of outrage. Even after the election, we’ve gotta have more stuff to rage about. News these days is just rage all day every day, no matter what.

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      I had to have new anxiety meds called in because all of the political stuff is sending me into panic attacks. I’ve been avoiding politics as much as possible since the day after the election because it causes so much anxiety.

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      I’ve said it the whole election cycle. The news downplayed every Trump gaffe because they wanted him back to fuel the outrage click machine. They wanted that sweet revenue back after 4 boring years of Biden just ya know doing his fucking job.

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    Bloody hell, this is the US version of Brexit… this world would be such a better place if people just did the bare minimum of reading into what they were actually voting for before they fucking voted!

    Also, seeing the other top searches being about the tariffs would have me creasing if it weren’t so disappointingly stupid that these peoole seemingly knew nothing about Trumps most advertised economic policy before (assumably) voting for him

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      I think that most of them do a lot of reading. The problem is that they just read news and info that they like and have no ability to criticise arguments. Critic thinking is the main problem imho.

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      Whenever I see all the trash on the side of the road, I know why the world is that way.

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      No, the US version of Brexit was Trump’s first term, since they both happened in the same year.

      This is just people saying they know exactly how bad Brexit went the first time and they want that again.

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      Of course, let’s not let things like knowledge or consequences get in the way of reactionary & spiteful arrogance informed only by propaganda induced fear and hate, emotions know to prevent rational thought /s

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    I wonder how many of these people are just now realizing that they have immediate family and friends who won’t be here next Christmas.

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    What annoying about this information is that we can’t say who did that. Is it Harris to trump or trump to Harris or those who voted for other options.

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      I think we can reason that its more than likely trump to harris. Not just because trump is a terrible person and lies about everything. But mainly because trump won so what need would there be to change a vote from anything else to trump?

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        You underestimate how much people want to be part of “the winning side”.

        Especially now with how Trump treated those against him

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    Considering all of the shocking things Trump promised to do once he was elected, people are re-evaluating what they have gotten themselves into.

    Sigh…