I’ve often assumed Harris didn’t want to insult her boss by going against him, because I got the impression she was planning to give Netanyahu what for once she took over - especially with him escalating things further and further. Did anyone else get that vibe, or was it just wishful thinking on my part?

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    Despite the best economy in the world AND Netanyahu backing Trump.

    The stupidity is off the charts.

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      The problem is the term.

      Politicians and pundits talk about the economy referring to the stock market.

      Citizens talk about the economy referring to the supermarket.

      The US government can only directly affect the former, and most of our nation just can’t comprehend that.

      Nixon attempted to freeze grocery prices for 90 days with an Executive Order. It resulted in emptying grocery stores and record inflation when the order expired. It was called the “Nixon Shock.”

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon_shock

      If you want the government to control the price of food, then you should probably move to a communist nation.

      https://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/07/business/worldbusiness/07iht-controls.4.11735373.html

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        If you want the government to control the price of food, then you should probably move to a communist nation.

        Don’t threaten me with a good time. /s

        JK. The US being the US they’d immediately turn into north Korea before adopting real communist policies.

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          Uh, North Korea is very much not a communist country. It’s a totalitarian state whose name says they’re a “democratic republic”, and whose leadership claim is a flavor of communism, but it is absolutely nothing of the sort.

          Edit: yeah whoops, I munged the semantics of your comment

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            That was my point. Most countries that try to become communist start off as soviet and then collapse into totalitarian dystopias because they consolidate too much power into the state and don’t have enough safeguards to prevent overreach. Russia did the same after the revolution. Enacting democratic votes and then ignoring them because communism wasn’t popular for the masses. It’s a fundamental problem.

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        We’re still in recovery from covid, as is everyone else. As much as everyone likes to pretend it never happened, or it is ancient history, it’s effects are still being seen.

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            Trump was in power at the start of the Pandemic and is widely held to have made things worse at the time. Whatever you think of Biden’s handling of Covid related issues since then, anyone that thinks that Trump was better or will be better is a fucking moron.

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              And since it’s a global phenomenon then people everywhere must be fucking morons.

              Glad we can agree on that.

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                Yes a great deal of people are morons. Not most, but a fair deal more than 25 percent. The swing to the right is a global phenomenon because the pandemic and its recovery is a global phenomenon. The fact that the entire world struggles after Covid means you should understand that there is NO WAY to have made it all good immediately, else SOMEONE would have done it. But you can compare how well administrations handled it in part by how quickly they have and are recovering in comparison to other countries The US had recovered very well under Biden, which is why we are doing among the best economically among all nations now. But you and other void skulls are under the impression that if it wasn’t perfect or we aren’t completely back to normal after less than 4 years, the administration failed and should be kicked out even when we have done better than nearly everyone. You lot want to have the reins given back to the guy who already demonstrated he could not do the job competently even when he had a decent staff of intelligent and experienced people behind him. Now we are going to let him fuck it all up with a new band of neo nazi sycophants because your eggs and gas WERE expensive, are now LESS expensive, but aren’t YET less expensive enough fast enough. Remind me to collect your thoughts on the economy (and health, polution, international trade and relations, war, etc.) in 4 years.

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                  You lot

                  Don’t lump me in with them. I voted for Kamala even though I hate this economy and knew she was going to be more of the same.

                  Don’t think that me pointing out that the economy sucks for most people and that’s why people didn’t bother to vote means I agree with them.

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          Right? Like, four years ago we had to shutdown big chunks of the world, inject trillions of Dollars of money into circulation to keep things vaguely moving, millions of deaths, logistical and manufacturing delays galore, and people are pissed that we’re not better off than we were before. So pissed that they want to take control from the people who have been turning it around and give it back to the people who fucked it up in the first place.

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              I’m an essential employee, and a lot of my hobbies are solo outdoor activities. so things were pretty much business as usual for me. But I remember the first few weeks of lockdown, I already commute at kind of a weird time and in a not too congested area, so I never dealt with much traffic to begin with, but there was basically no one on the roads then, and I don’t think people realize how big the difference was because everyone was just stuck at home.

              My car actually averaged a whole mile per gallon better than usual just from the lack of my already light traffic.

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                Same. I was installing equipment at shut down schools 30+ minutes away for months in 2020. Roads nearly empty, schools completely empty, restaurants either boarded up, or only doing delivery and takeout, sometimes out of makeshift windows where the front door used to be, stores deserted (except for Home Depot because everyone was doing DIY projects during shutdown so they had dozens of people waiting outside like they were at a night club except everyone was standing 6 feet apart). People didn’t go out.

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      Yes, but to be charitable to the people out there, they are specifically targeted by mega corporations to hole them up into a conservative-affirming digital content feed.

      They are victims just as much as they are stupid.

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        Yeah bruh, your head is completely fucked if you think that tariffs, labor shortages, and selling $8 trillion in bonds is going to help you out at the fucking grocery store. Idiots gonna learn, I tell you what. Pardon my use of the general “you”, I don’t mean you in particular.

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          I totally agree with you. People are just plain stupid, and right wing politicians are really good at grifting idiots.

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            Harris and Biden both knew they’d take a hit for taking AIPAC money and they decided they were ok with that risk. That seems pretty stupid to me considering how close elections have been and how 88% of Americans are against the gaza war crimes.

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          Yeah bruh, your head is completely fucked if you think that tariffs, labor shortages, and selling $8 trillion in bonds is going to help you out at the fucking grocery store.

          Many people don’t believe that Trump will actually do the things he said he’d do, because it wasn’t that bad his last term and they see the reactions to his first election as hysterical in retrospect. Those that believe he will do the things he said – a minority in his coalition I think – are wingnuts that are in favor of those things.

          It’s all stupid, and leaves out that the “deep state”, institutions, and moderating voices in his administration – which Trump is looking to eliminate in his second term – constrained him and kept the country largely business as usual despite his shenanigans. The adults in the room had the effect of saving us from a lot of Trump’s worst impulses, and for people who do not pay attention to politics this made the Trump-Pence administration retroactively palatable.