• Aeri@lemmy.world
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    Donald Trump has committed like, a couple dozen political suicides and stood back up, which is fucking alarming.

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      It helps him drastically that his supporters do not consider the same things that the media does as “political suicide”. They instead see it as yet more reasons to support him, because he is everything they want to be: rich, powerful bastards with the willingness and shamelessness to be the most terrible version of themselves as possible. All because they hate poor people and minorities more than the rich fucks who are ACTUALLY fucking them over.

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    If you still think anything trump could do is political suicide, you are too naive to be writing about politics.

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    Oh come on “journalists”, please stop with this “end of the Republican party” bullshit.

    None of this will kill the white supremacist party because forty percent of America is still identifying as white supremacist and another ten percent literally can’t tell the difference between someone quoting Hitler and someone Hitler was a genocidal asshole that shouldn’t be looked up to and those morons vote in Pennsylvania.

    The Republican party is perfectly fine after this yet another time example of Republicans being Nazi sympathizers holding a major public really where they proudly proclaim their White Nationalist opinions and agenda.

    I think the only hope for getting rid of this bullshit strain of conservatism here and across the world is that they hold the same beliefs in the next global pandemic.

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      My thoughts exactly. Every election cycle, there are a slew of “Republican voters won’t be able to stomach THIS latest revelation!” articles. Then the Republicans dhed less than a rounding error of their voter base while picking up a nearly equal amount of votes from neo-Nazis or the like.

      The party of immoral hypocrisy, “shockingly”, doesn’t care about the morality of their candidate so long as they “hurt the right people”.

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    It was intentional. They are doing everything possible to bait Harris into a mistake and distract voters from Trump being too frail to campaign. Trump voters are already racist shitbags. The strategy here is to make Harris seem shrill and unreasonable.

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      Also, all attention is good attention. That has been the rule of the Trump campaign since day one.

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        I have seen so many articles about Donald Trump in the last week, and I’m not sure I have even seen one about Kamala Harris. Unfortunately, the media and the online public are both very easy to bait into giving Trump free publicity.

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          Right. His whole McDonald’s stunt was wild how effective it was. We all made fun of it, but it was a net positive for him from all the headlines.

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          This is exactly it - I’m on Lemmy, a place that’s probably 35 percentage points more left than the average US space, and the entire feed is similar stories about this rally. The media has learned nothing and in 3 years American journalism may be dead - regulated into state-approved propaganda like in Russia - because of it.

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      They are doing everything possible to bait Harris into a mistake

      super walz to the rescue. seems like he has played the VP attack dog role pretty smartly. loud enough to make headlines with reasonably pointed attacks, while being “clean” enough to deflect incoming.

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      The strategy here is to make Harris seem shrill and unreasonable.

      The idea that calling out bigotry as unacceptable can be ‘shrill and unreasonable’ is so ridiculous that I want to disbelieve you, except that I know enough about the world to know that it happens.

      You can post online that you’re upset that Israel is killing innocent people, and be told that saying that is ‘Russian propaganda’ etc. Anything can be spun as unacceptable, I guess.

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    That man is politically immortal. There is nothing he can do to “commit political suicide”.

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      He can lose, repeatedly. But that doesn’t really end Trumpism. It just mutates the brand into Republicans who can pitch themselves as “winners”.

      A big problem with Lincoln Project Republicanism is that it doesn’t refute the fundamental fascist tenants of Trumpism (the xenophobia, the white nationalist Christiandom, anti-Democratic sentiments). They just pitch Trump as on the wrong side of foreign policy (not hawkish enough on Russia or China).

      So we end up with Trump on one end and Ted Cruz on the other, as our range of conservative options.

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        Things have definitely changed and there’s republicans agitating to just blow it all up and start over. The old party wasn’t great but it was at least loyal.

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          there’s republicans agitating to just blow it all up and start ove

          There are Republicans who lost their primaries and want their seats back. But they aren’t going to throw away Reaganism to defeat Trumpism.

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            Everyone calls it Reagan, but he just did what Republicans were saying they wanted for decades already. In fact I’m not sure where the Republicans could fall back to ideologically. Ever since the Dixie Flip they’ve pretty much built their entire party around racism and religious extremism.

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              In fact I’m not sure where the Republicans could fall back to ideologically.

              At the heart of every Republican is a British Tory who desperately wants an American King.

              Ever since the Dixie Flip they’ve pretty much built their entire party around racism and religious extremism.

              Republicanism, even back to Lincoln, was a theory of Industrial expansion. Modern Republicans simply have nowhere else to expand into.

              Racism and religious extremism are about re-colonizing the interior a second time, with a smaller and more “pure” cohort of settlers.

              But without the large locus of dense population like the party had when it was dominant in the metropoles, that’s increasingly difficult to accomplish.

              What the GOP needs is a new Mecca (or, perhaps, a New New York). A large, population dense center of power to expand out of again. Maybe they’ve found that in Salt Lake City. Maybe they’ve found it in the increasingly right wing Texas capital of Austin. Or in Silicon Valley. Or in Tel Aviv. Maybe they’ll rediscover New York (Eric Adams and Andrew Cuomo certainly suggest fascism still plays well in the Big Apple).

              But Settler Colonialism 2 is the dream.

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                That’s an interesting way to look at it. I’m not sure they need a single city though, the analogy kind of falls apart if you take it too far. But the whole restricting voting rights to white Christian men married with kids could certainly be described as a new form of colonialism. It’s essentially apartheid, and that was an outgrowth of colonialism.

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      I came to say something like “too bad this guy is a zombie, smells like one too.”

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    It wasn’t the rape charges, or saying he wants to fuck his daughter, or saying immigrants are eating pets, or that people are getting abortions at 9 months, or trying to build that stupid fucking wall, or banning Muslims, or botching covid, or the insurrection, or calling on proud boys, or having meeting with Putin, or having meetings with Netanyahu, or…

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      …grab 'em by the pussy, or vets are suckers and losers, or his love letters with Kim, or his generals not being loyal like hitler’s, or shoving light up the asses of covid victims, or bleach, or TAKING A SHARPIE TO A HURRICANE MAP, or never releasing his financial records, or his fucking health records, or…

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        …saying it doesn’t cost $60000 to bury a ‘fucking Mexican’, or making multiple political spectacles at Arlington National Cemetery, or praising North Korea, or locker room talk, or…

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          … failing to pass a cognitive test, or not being able to answer what the nuclear triad is while he was a sitting president, or being impeached twice, or talking to boy scouts about sexy yacht parties, or using the US armed forces against US citizens, or…

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      I will continue to say, and I mean no disrespect to you or anyone else who opposes this shitstain, the fact that he was President once and is very likely to be President again speaks volumes on who the American people are and it’s not nice.

      A large chunk of you think this man is a good representation of you on the world stage. Someone who is weak, overweight, obnoxious, loud, a bully, sexist, racist, I can go on. This is who a large chunk of Americans feel best represents them.

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        Of course. I have always found it astonishing that anyone can behold DT and think he should be in charge of the country. Of course, same for Limbaugh or all the people in Fox who act like disingenuous assholes nonstop.

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    I think trump could go on stage, strip naked, turn around and shotgun ass blast on the front row crowd and they’d still give their lives to vote for him

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      One would think stealing and potentially selling sensible documents or a failed coup or the countless sexual allegations are political suicides. But now a racist clown will get him?

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    Nothing is political suicide for Trump. He was right when he said he could shoot someone on 5th Ave and he wouldn’t lose any supporters. His followers are a cult and the only way they would stop following him is if he somehow turned brown or black.

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    This opinion piece was an operatic exercise in wishful thinking. Even as it admits that at least 47% of the population loves everything spewed in that rally, it still called it political suicide.

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    The Daily Beast is essentially Fox News for democrats, and I say this as a democrat. I wouldn’t take much of what they say seriously. Especially their sensationalist headlines.

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    Unless people go out an vote, it won’t be suicide. They’re just pandering to their base. The Dems need to participate and not go on good feels a la 2016.

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        Yeah, but he’s not in power unlike 2016. Yes, we should watch for and be ready to react within the law to fake elector schemes, collaborating with hostile foreign interests, inciting coups and violence, etc but if we do, there’s fuck-all he can do about it. Trumpism dies with his political career. In the final stretch, let’s reject him with so many votes they can’t possibly claim another “stolen” election!

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          6 senators and 121 representatives (all Republican) objected to certifying Arizona’s results in the hours after the insurrection at the capitol on Jan 6th. He also has 6 justices on the Supreme Court who have already ruled that he’s above the law. Unfortunately he doesn’t need to be in power if he’s being propped up by those who do.

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          My concern is that Trump is defeated in the election, declared is stolen, and we do react within the law to fight it, but Trump is declared President by the House of Representatives and the Supreme Court anyway. Once Project 2025 starts rolling out as policy, how many of us are then willing to start reacting outside of the new law? Most Germans were not fervent supporters of the Nazi party. They just didn’t want to get in trouble with the ruling government. Are you willing to risk your life to fight the fascists? Are you willing to risk the lives of your family? Or do you learn to survive with your head down and not make waves…

          Not calling anyone out for anything, but I often have to wonder about how I would react now that it keeps getting closer to reality.

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            Yeah man that’s probably what’s going to happen. It Worked for Bush against Gore when margins were close, and the supreme Court is even more stacked in their favor now. This is looking to be a similarly close race. My only question is will libs throw their hands up in defeat and let their last facade of democracy die or fight back in some way.

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    I’ve lost count of how many “political suicides” Trump has allegedly gone through since 2015… Yet somehow, here he still is…

    My faith in humanity has been severely diminished by the fact his candidacy keeps surviving what in a sane world would be disqualifying events/revelations.

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      Kamala is expected to prove her worth for office and cannot be less than perfect, whereas Trump is allowed to repeatedly prove how unfit he is day after day