How fucked up is it that the day after the ceo of a major health insurance company was murdered in broad daylight,
The next day another health insurance company said they would no longer limit anesthesia during surgeries.
This makes me realize something, and it’s not what our sponsor or corporate donor wants me to believe.
Yea we feast on their money while they get to serve it up voluntarily to stay clear of the guillotine.
It’s true. The YT link is for music. Here’s the article.
https://www.npr.org/2024/12/05/nx-s1-5217617/blue-cross-blue-shield-anesthesia-anthem
‘We have to wait for elections to attempt to fix anything’ is just something we’ve been brainwashed to believe.
Enough people deciding they want change immediately makes it happen. Especially when those at the reigns fear immediate backlash.
Elections are theater as long as corporate campaign funding exists.
Elections were the deal. We’d vote for representatives and abide by their decisions rather than, y’know, killing people in the streets to change society.
When elections can’t change society, though. When the deal is broken, it’s back to the old ways.
Yep. The social contract has been destroyed. Time to stop holding up our end of it.
Well, the news is now out that these corporate fatcats are not as untouchable as they think
Is anything remotely likely to change as a result of this on a systemic level or otherwise?
It’s bi-partisan too. Which makes this infinitely more insane
It’s one thing to mock it on pseudonymous platforms like Reddit and the fediverse.
It’s another to do it somewhere linked to your real name and job like LinkedIn.
People really hate insurance companies.
Don’t do it under your names folks, regime will be making lists based on this.
They are scared and they will lash out.
With that being said, fuck that parasite.
FAFO
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Help, I’m now physically inside my system, but it’s kinda hard to read the screen at this angle. Plus I’ve got to reach out for keyboard input…
No you don’t??
Just use an on-screen keyboard smh
lol @ thinking reddit is anonymous
i was talking about people commenting on linkedin actually…
nor did I suggest reddit is anon, but aint you aint got provide your full name and address.
They already have lists. The only hope we have is to stand together in solidarity as the working class against the billionaire capitalists entering power.
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Yeah if they fuck with me they will find for sure.
You think having a fake online name will stop them from finding out who you are? Did you even pay attention to the Snowden leaks?
Make them spend more resources doing deanonymizations. First they have to get the IP from instance admins, then trace the tor routing, then the VPN that I use, then ask for my ISP. Make them do all that work.
(Or maybe they already have access by simply activating their backdoors within Intel ME, AMD PSP, and whatever baseband backdoor on the phones they have, and have just gotten everyone’s real identities in an instant, we can’t know for sure.)
They also have backdoors in most implementations of TLS, according to a person I know who worked government security.
Still takes more work than just giving them that information.
I work in cryptography, and I guarantee if that’s true “some person you know who worked in government security” would not tell you if they did know, or they are pulling shit out of their ass. There have been so many people that have looked at or worked on SSL/TLS implementations (including some of my coworkers), any vulnerabilities would have to be pretty subtle or clever, and that would be kept highly classified. Quit making shit up or repeating bullshit you heard.
Sure, if we’re talking about code vulnerabilities only. It’s most likely a compromised root cert though.
That just would allow a malicious attacker to fake being the server, it doesn’t actually compromise the TLS session. So you are talking about a much more sophisticated multi stage attack that needs to be actively executed. This wouldn’t at all allow them to record traffic and decrypt later.
The certs authenticate that you are talking to the real server, the symmetric session keys that are usually derived from a diffie helman key exchange have nothing to do with certs. That’s two separate (but connected) parts of the transaction to build a TLS session.
It wouldn’t be impossible. There are like so many different certificate issuers, any one of them collaborating with a government would allow them to create a certificate that would be accepted by your browser.
No, they said we already knew about that and didn’t give it another thought.
It is almost never a question of whether it’s possible or not. You WILL make a mistake. It’s just a question of how much effort you’re worth as an individual.
right, don’t make it easy for them. plus they got prolly got half a country to put on the list now.
When everyone is on the list, noone is.
LinkedIn is one of the least sane social media sites I’ve ever had the displeasure of using. Under all the marketing BS and obviously fake feel good stories lie takes that would make your insane Facebook uncle blush.
I used to work for a big data company that tracked shares to various social networks and the frequency with which people share porn to LinkedIn was remarkably high.
Maybe it was only-secretaries dot com.
I need a direct link to be sure
What?! How?! So I can learn to avoid it!
People are too hung up about anonimity on the internet. When one of my country’s worst journalistic shitrags mandated a real name policy due to the rampant racism and other -isms in the comment section of their articles… nothing changed. People are happily spewing the same vile rethoric as before and proud to, instead of being shamed into silence.
I couldn’t help but notice Blue Cross rescinded its very dangerous policy placing a time limit on anesthesia the day after the murder.
I don’t want a reign of terror, but perhaps just a little bit of terror will have CEOs thinking they could be next when considering especially harmful policies.
Thats okay because its not terror its defense.
Robespierre thought killing tens of thousands of people was defense. History has not been kind to that position.
Good thing there’s only 2066 of them. 2065 now.
Marx once said that proletarians won’t embellish the terror once it’s their turn.
No, it’s terror. It’s just that that isn’t always the negative we’ve tended to think it is.
Typically we’ve been citizens in a country on the “power” side of the dynamic, so using terror like that meant using it on us, and so we learned that it’s bad.
This time we’re on the other side of the power dynamic, so it’s seemingly… Good.
The bad thing being good creates cognitive dissonance.
This is a direct consequence of “the war on terror” attempting to redefine the military strategy of asymmetrical warfare as terrorism and inherently immoral.
To sell the bullshit “war on terror” the easiest way to make the US seem righteous was to degrade the public’s sense of why people violently resist and reduce it to the act of violently resisting an organized traditional military is immoral unless the thing resisting is also a traditional organized military.
I am glad that narrative is breaking down though as the distortion of how and why violent conflicts occur is dangerously blinding to a basic understanding of the world.
Killing people who were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time is always wrong.
I think you will find Palestinian citizens agree with you on that point.
I think you will find Palestinian citizens agree with you on that point.
Yes. And the Israeli hostages.
Just a light drizzle of terror
In France, during the Nazi occupation in WW2, a few people turned to the Resistance movement which was also a terror operation: they would target military objectives but also conduct assassinations of nazi officials designed to inspire fear in the others and spark support in the population.
You just reminded me of a movie and let’s just say I highly recommend it.
On yet another front, the Greek resistance would kill Nazis. In retaliation, Nazis would kill whole villages. Enraged, more Greeks would join the resistance and kill more Nazis. Net result: Towards the end pretty much every Greek was in the resistance and Greece was the only (IIRC, or at least the first or something) country to free itself from Nazi occupation. (Then they became a dictatorship different story).
And you just reminded me of a movie from a show and let’s just say I recommend both.
Technically they didn’t fully rescind it. They rescinded it in some places but not others, and for some patients but not others. It’s just PR, they have no intention of actually changing things.
Finding out after you’ve fucked around isn’t terror.
Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist. This guy’s a vigilante.
I guess it all depends how IRA makes you feel lol
Thatcher was the one that got away
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Always has been
Stop struggling and accept that lots of people are ok with advocating violence against evil people.
You know what’s pretty neat about this?
It’s not mob justice. Mob justice is when people get together and come up with bad ideas. This is an individual that the public has now rallied around.
While we only see comments from a select few number of people in this country (relative to it’s size of 350m) it seems that democracy is voicing itself. I know a lot of people who were initially shocked, but then quickly came to the conclusion that FAFO is a real thing.
And health insurance companies have done a lot of fucking around.
And health insurance companies have done a lot of fucking around.
Hopefully more of the FO part comes out of the woodwork.
Not a lot of finding out so far though.
This guy is probably gonna get folk songs in TikTok by now
We don’t know the implications of this. But there got to be something big coming our way.
Ruling class will not have their lieutenant punished like this in a broad day light with out lashing out.
They already despise as is, they gonna step up brutality imho screw here, screw there.
That’s just going to pour gas on the fire. The less people have to lose, the more likely they’re going to take matters into their own hands.
You aint wrong but ruling class can’[t accept one of their officers being gunned down by what appears to be a pleb with vendetta and he get away with it while rest of us cheer him on as a hero.
This is about power, and the the people with power feeling insecure.
Time will tell. I expect things to get worse before/if they ever get better for the working class.
History is rhyming again.
Suggest reading about the circumstances running up to the storming of the Bastille.
Fuck Around, Find Out?
You got it.
“Mob justice” is a boogeyman invented to distract you from the fact that the cops and the state give you no justice at all.
It’s not even mob justice, it’s vigilante justice. It just so happens in this case practically everyone is pretty happy about it having happened.
The mob never called for this CEO’s death, we’re just not sad he was killed. Even if in general most of us wouldn’t actively call for people to be killed.
If it makes CEOs afraid, then fantastic, a nice happy side-bonus.
Yeah, and that’s all true, but in the comment I replied to was room for the implication that “mob justice” is a problem somehow.
We’re told it would be chaos, some great threat to society, but like, the only examples of mobs that I can think of doing any real damage are groups whose immediate aims were supported by the ruling class. Lynchings in the US south were openly permitted and encouraged by the entrenched white supremacist police state. Witch burnings were encouraged by the state to disenfranchise women from power over their own bodies, and they laid the foundations for capitalism.
Then those horrific examples of state oppression are presented to us as examples of the horrors that await if we were to ever stop bowing to that same state and take matters into our own hands.
Even if the person making the comment didn’t intend to reinforce that notion, it’s a default assumption for many people and I didn’t want it to stand unchallenged.
Is karma.
Good. Let the celebration continue.
unsuccessfully.
This guy was willing to do it for free. Imagine if there was a bounty.
TBF, we don’t know that. Might’ve been a paid hitman.
The professional killer was the one who died.
According to the media, he made a lot of very amateur mistakes if that’s the case. Like leaving a water bottle and granola bar wrappers and being filmed on camera at a Starbucks.
Leaving the DNA behind doesn’t really identify him if his DNA is not in the system.
But nowadays the odds some relative of yours put theirs up on some family tree site is pretty high so they could narrow the suspect pool quite a bit going that route.
His DNA doesn’t need to be in any system. These days there are professionals that take DNA results and comb through the databases to find close relatives that are in the system. It’s how they caught the BTK Killer.
I think you’re thinking of the Golden State Killer (among many others). BTK was caught through digital forensics, not forensic genealogy.
Has the Starbucks guy actually been confirmed as the same person? It looked like clearly a different jacket and backpack, I assumed that was either an accomplice or just an unfortunate lookalike, but I suppose he could have changed or it could just be odd lighting tricks.
No, not that I’m aware of.
Does he have an OnlyFans?
Anything sent like that would be frozen. Monero would be the better option.
Does he have a Patreon?
Don’t get scammed but if he ever needs a legal defense fund, I think the plebs can figure it out.
He did job well, least we can do it pay respects
Even if he did, any funds would be frozen. A Monero Address would be a better way of receiving money.
Edit: Mind you, I expect him to very soon be arrested, so he wouldn’t really have any time to enjoy it.
Edit 2: Look up Jim Bell. He wrote a very popular essay in the 90s.
Edit 2: Look up Jim Bell. He wrote a very popular essay in the 90s.
This is one of the things that scares me about most about completely anonymous currencies and networks: untraceable kill orders and, to a lesser extent, unlimited bribery (that already exists in US). Because you know, it opens the most possibilities to people with money. Like billionaires.
We need a black market gofundme so we can crowd source hits to keep up.
I’m not sure we would outweigh them - you know the statistics, almost half the wealth (potential kill orders) is held by top 1.1%.
I suspect billionaires and other people of high authority, especially, would be the first ones on the list. But your average everyday person is very unlikely to be on the list because they don’t have enough people who hate them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bell
Interesting guy.
Indeed he is. Did you read the SI?
SI?
Essay, sorry
When society gets to the point where you will die if you don’t do anything … or you will die if you do something …
Eventually people realize that they will be punished, threatened or endangered no matter what they do or don’t do, some people will come to the conclusion that they would rather go down fighting.
If you’re going to get screwed doing nothing, some would rather go out on a blaze of glory because they no longer have anything to lose.
Falling Down was in my head this week. The number of people in the US that are close to it is so high, it’s barely fringe. Ironically Trump might just trigger a revolution when he tries to clamp down.
I am assuming that when this guy is caught, what we will find out is that his wife had cancer and died from it and they refused to honor their claims or something like that.
Dealing with insurance with a nonfatal chronic illness can also be infuriating. You have to keep fighting the same battle over and over and over again.
Hopefully it doesn’t come to that, and he just never gets caught.
If he does, it’s gonna be one hell of a gofundme campaign for his defense.
if this dude gets found he won’t make it to trial.
It’s been 3 days, and the chances of them finding him go down with every day.
If I was him id be in the Appalachians camping by now with no internet or cell connected devices. Id just wait a month or two and move all of my shit out of new york, mind you he may not even be a New Yorker he could be Californian for all we know.
I legit think the state/oligarchy will kill him silently. Taking it to trial and giving this guy a voice could make things so much worse for them. They’re afraid of creating a robin hood, and class solidarity; of giving the working class a hero and cause to rally around.
They’re so close to creating a robot army that can suppress the masses. They just have to bide their time until revolution is impossible.
I legit think the state/oligarchy will kill him silently.
Wouldn’t that backfire though?
Won’t more people start thinking “So this guy killed a really important CEO and apparently never got caught nor faced repercussions… you know what…”
Except the government will probably make GoFundMe freeze the funds for the campaign.
It’s a legal defense fund, not a bounty reward.
Granted, they’d probably still do so anyways.
Oh, I’m almost certain that they would primarily because they would not want him having money to fight a legal battle.
He won’t be paying for it in either case, someone will pick this up pro-bono.
Or perhaps himself dying of a treatable disease they refused to pay for. He’ll be a hero either way, the question is how much.
Can we crowdfund this, and provide a crypto bounty as reward for targets, including politicians, in the same way there was a reward for information on the shooter?
This would be to let those who step out of line know how much disdain there is for any of them in particular at any given moment, and the rewards can be split as needed.
The proletariat needs alternative systems of leverage.
This is for my Purge sequel screenplay, of course. One can dream.
Jim bell ftw
Hopefully dude never gets caught (Which he probably won’t as it’s now been greater than 48 hours, and we all know what that means if you’ve seen The First 48)
But if he does, it’s going to be awfully hard putting together a jury that hasn’t heard of JURY NULLIFICATION
First 48 is about finding a victim alive. Murderers are commonly identified and caught outside that window.
48 hours is only for regular cases with one or two cops assigned. High profile stuff like this gets considerably more attention and resources for a longer period of time
If they catch him they will kill him.
He should walk into a news organisation lobby and ask to be arrested there
And then they’ll kill him while waiting for a trial.
But the world would know it was murder and not “resisting arrest”
Would that change anything in a country where Trump is re-elected?
The cynic in me says nothing matters and nothing ever changes, the ideologe says it gives people ideas, ideas that build up and can one day turn into action.
Well, let’s hope the second part of you is right.
Exactly. There’s no way they’ll allow him to speak his mind or allow the people to rally in his support in a huge trial. They find him, he’s dead. The “how” they’ll figure it out. Happy cop trigger, killed while trying to escape, heart attack, attacked by a bear, hit by meteorite. They’ll come up with something, mark my words.
At this point, I don’t even think they want to catch him anymore. He’s already being talked about as a hero, throwing him in jail would make him a martyr. People would protest at the trial too, it would be a mess.
Man, this shit just keeps being funny. The longer it stays funny, the better it affects all involved.
first shot of the revolution
Serious? People are reacting with laughing emojis? Really?
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