• FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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      First, the book of revelation was written for a specific audience- that particular audience were contemporary/living Christian’s when it was written and would have been understood to be referring to Nero- who at the time was persecuting Christian’s and blaming them on all the shit that was happening in Rome.

      Secondly, the timeline is somewhat unclear even if you take it as prophetic and literal. Depending on who you talk to the resurrection comes before, during, or after the tribulations. (Pre trib, Mid trib, and post trib)

      My personal favorite is the Any-Trib camp (that says it’s all of the options). Mostly because it’s their excuse to clear up that uncertainty in ordering, they just suggest it’s not a singular event.

      (And are most certainly ignoring that it’s always a singular event.)

      These are the kind of nonsensical arguments that pop up because you refuse to accept that the scriptures aren’t entirely literal or meant to be and instead absolutely must both be cohesive (aka consistent,) and correct…. And are literal prophecy.

      Remember that to the original audience, this isn’t prophecy, but political-discourse-as-allegory…. Because open criticism would get you killed.

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        I actually don’t believe. I’ve only been exposed to this because of my born again sister. She cries when thinking about the “Rapture” because she’s afraid she won’t be near her husband when it happens. She loves my BIL very much. She thinks that everyone will be enthralled by Christ and will be praising him constantly for eternity. Like, literally that will be the only thought in anyone’s head. Like a cult. I was the last born and by the time I came around, my mother couldn’t be bothered to take me to church. She was too tired. I’m very thankful to her for that even if it wasn’t her intention to not indoctrinate me. Never been baptized either.

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          Yeah. Used to be deep into fundie-land myself.

          Hindsight… all those depictions of heaven sounds like torture. Like, there would be nothing better to do except go to worship services and listen to hillsong 24/7.

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    Doesn’t it say in the Bible that the antichrist will be followed by many and viewed as their savior?

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    If you’re an immoral, unethical, uncaring sociopa… Oh right modern Xtians I forgot.

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    The good ol’ “imperfect vessel” bullshit I’m sure. They won’t give two shits if he was literally killing babies himself, running around calling himself Johnny Abortionseed. They believe what they want to believe, it’s why they’re religious in the first place…

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    New Apostolic Reformation

    And

    The Seven Mountain Mandate

    We’ve been trying to warn you.

    But it was all just crazy talk.

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      Interesting that the beast is said to have seven heads in Revelation. There’s also 7 Trump Towers with his name on them:

      • Trump Tower, NYC
      • Trump International Hotel and Tower, Chicago
      • Trump Towers, Istanbul
      • Trump International Hotel and Tower, Toronto
      • Trump World Tower, New York
      • Trump Towers, Sunny Isles Beach
      • Trump Tower, Manila

      I’m a UU, so I don’t fully subscribe to the Bible as perfect and wholly divine or authoritative. But a bunch of people are wearing red colored Satan hats with a slogan on their forehead while voting for an adulterer, glutton, slothful, raging, envious, greedy, prideful “politician.” This man is so departed from Christ… I don’t get it, besides lies, propaganda, and accelerationism.

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        I’ve gone into exactly this before.

        Glad others have eyes to see and ears to hear.

        I’m not a saint. Or religious. Or godly. Or good. But I know what evil is.

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    These are scary motherfuckers.

    If I believed in Christian mythology, I’d say Trump was definitely the antichrist.

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    These people are fucking crazy and wildly unAmerican. But seriously, if you haven’t applied logic and reason to arrive at where you are at now, of course you are ripe for literally any kind of bullshit at all.

    For all his political strength, one thing that Trump cannot do is hold back the tide of demographic change in the US - including the move away from faith.

    Oh, they’d love to do everything possible to reverse that trend away from xtianity.

    Some of these assholes would loooove to not only give xtians more privileges (again), they would like to make it compulsory, including having kids recite stuff from their little book club in our schools, so as to indoctrinate them.