Yeah, both sides amiright?

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        exit polls showed that harris lost mainly on the economy. You just want to pretend it was gaza so you can point fingers.

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          Nope, it was the apathy. Democrats that came out to vote for Biden 4 years ago stayed home. That’s a FACT you can count in the number of votes cast this election vs last.

          You know what else is a fact? People that stayed home and didn’t vote DIDN’T GET EXIT POLLED.

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            Exit polls and polls leading up to election. Come on now, lets not mince words or pretend the data wasnt obvious. They did know. It was all over the news snce the day she started her run.

            “The economy, particularly inflation and the cost of living, is the primary issue for a majority of voters.”

            https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm24g1nj364o

            Bidens historically low approval rating was well documented, and the reason for it being low was well understood. She chose to say that “she couldnt think of anything she’d change” or something like that. She ran on a platform that had already ended up on the rocks long ago. Centrists just put their fingers in their ears and pretended Biden was the second coming of FDR whenever Biden was criticised, but the numbers were there waiting to be read if you cared about reality and dropped the infantile “rooting for your sports team, blue no matter who” mentality.

            88% of Americans disagreed with how the US was acting in the Israeli war on gazans. Did you think that would be cost-free, or that Biden showed he had votes to burn in the last election or the ones before that? he didnt. Harris knew that wouldnt be consequence free. She ran with it anyway. Thats just Bidens stubborn rightwing-fellating petulant stupidity thats been the hallmark of his entire career bleeding into Harrnis’ campaign. A competent politician wouldnt have taken on that baggage when it was so obviously going to cost big in swing states.

            https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/arab-american-voters-struggle-to-back-harris-over-u-s-support-for-israels-war-in-gaza

            “The vice president has said she would not change from Biden’s policies, and argued that Israel has a right to defend itself. But she has also said that far too many innocent Palestinians have been killed”

            https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4895174-democrats-middle-east-conflict/

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          Harris lost because of a lack of blue voters who didn’t get an exit poll.

          There were more red there, and they claim to have voted because of economy because racism and hurting the other team wasn’t on the official ticket.

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      There were two ways to vote for Trump. 1) Mark Trump on your ballot and turn it in, or 2) Not vote for Harris, not turn in a ballot at all.

      Quit being coy, just take a bow and acknowledge your victory. You stood strong against genocide, and helped elect the only candidate who can’t be reasoned with and whose stated political policy was to SPEED UP THE GENOCIDE. Congrats! If you thought their blood wasn’t on your hands before, it absolutely is now.

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        There were two ways to vote for Trump. 1) Mark Trump on your ballot and turn it in, or 2) Not vote for Harris, not turn in a ballot at all.

        By this logic a vote for Jill Stein would be a vote for Harris, lol. Question your political masters, this just isn’t logical at all.

        Quit being coy, just take a bow and acknowledge your victory.

        It is good for Democratic voters to have failed while supporting genocide. You shouldn’t support genocide and I shouldn’t have to lecture you like this. Be a good person.

        You stood strong against genocide, and helped elect the only candidate who can’t be reasoned with and whose stated political policy was to SPEED UP THE GENOCIDE.

        Israel already has unconditional support for its genocide and opened up two new fronts with the suppory of the Biden-Harris administration. Israel does not have one hsnd tied behind its back. The dominant global empire supports it materially and diplomatically.

        Your lesser evil logic means nothing here. It is again just a thought terminating cliché from your political masters. Instead of justifying lesser-evil genocide, please go and inform yourself and work to help others.

        Congrats! If you thought their blood wasn’t on your hands before, it absolutely is now.

        Blood is on the hands of those committing and supporting genocide, not those who fifht against it. Look at how this political illogic has twisted your understanding of basic reality.

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        There were two ways to vote for Trump. 1) Mark Trump on your ballot and turn it in, or 2) Not vote for Harris, not turn in a ballot at all.

        In that case, Trump has won with an overwhelming majority in every election he’s ever run in, since nonvoters are like half the population and all of them count as voting for Trump.

        Back here in reality, that’s not how it works.