• NateNate60@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    There has not been peace in the Middle East since the Ottoman Empire and there probably never will be peace in the Middle East for at least several decades more.

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          17 days ago

          Do you really think that if Israel did not exist that there’d be peace there?

          I am 1000% confident that there would not be gencoide there if not for zionists. And theres plenty of proof of peace there in the past.

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        17 days ago

        People have been saying “As long as no [disliked social group] exists in the Middle East, there will be no peace” for the entirety of history.

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          17 days ago

          Interesting theory. Tell us more about your obviously clear understanding of the 800 years of the jews living peacefully in that region during the ottoman empire.

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      18 days ago

      There isn’t going to be peace in my region until any of the regional powers once again has hegemony. Right now this region is a shatter belt, that is a region where regional and global powers treat as a battleground. That’s why a revolution against Syria’s government devolved into American, Russian, Turkish, Kurdish, Iranian, Israeli, Iraqi and Lebanese aircraft militias and armies directly involved, with even more indirectly involved.

      Sadly the next few decades portend a collapse of the current authoritarian stability and even more Syria-like disasters.

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      There won’t be peace in the middle east until we’ve moved beyond petroleum.
      When there’s no need for oil the global superpowers won’t need to play the regional powers against each other to take advantage of the chaos for profit anymore.

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        17 days ago

        there was 800 years of peace under the ottoman empire that ended at about ww1. Zionists like to paper over that and pretend there has always been war there between jews and goy, but its not true at all.

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        18 days ago

        Just wanna point out that this is racist (???) propaganda meant to give the impression that the current state of the Middle East is anything but directly caused by Western interference. The Middle East was stable under Ottoman rule and Arab (gross oversimplification) rule before it.

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          Yeah, this whole “that place hasn’t had peace for thousands of years” is a Western talking point made to justify our occupation there.

          The Ottoman and Arab empire (which we LOVE to pretend never existed) not only brought a lot of the innovations in science and technology that we still use to this day, but they also had a lot of social advancements that predated Western culture.