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Newsome can do whatever he wants, but aside from seceding, there isn’t anything to stop P2025 now.
Enough with the world is ending bullshit. Republicans have been touting states rights for decades if not centuries. Look at the shithole that Florida has become now that it’s a gop state.
California has plenty of avenues to protect themselves from GOP bullshit
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Ok 👌 bring that same energy in 2 years during mid terms. No wonder our party is cooked. It’s full of quitters like you. If the world didn’t end in 2016 it’s not gonna end now. If you don’t believe that then quit your job, spend your entire life savings and live your life to the fullest.
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Ok go to your nearest bank and spend all your money on blow and hookers. It’s over. Life is over as we know it. Delete your Lemmy account while your at it. No need for internet anymore since the world is ending and trump will ban all communications.
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I’d support a threat of secession.
Great.
See the Wikipedia of every other state who has tried under an non-authoritarian regime over the past 100 years.
The Tenth Amendment states
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
So there are a fair amount of domestic affairs that California can take care of on its own. So Newsom cannot stop Project 2025, but he can make plans so that California citizens are not quite so adversely affected when certain administrative departments go poof.
Expect liberal states to make a point of scrutinizing this clause and suing the Federal Government when they think it has overstepped its bounds.
The GOP has the White House. And the Senate. And the House of Representatives. And the Supreme Court. The constitution says whatever they want it to say.
The Tenth Amendment states
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.Whatever the fuck Trump’s handpicked SCOTUS says it states.And the MAGA administration and supreme court will just laugh in our faces. We’re toast, man.
This is true and good. But with the Supreme Court in Trump’s pocket the results may not be great.
Except California has the 5th largest economy in the world. Good luck running the U.S. without their tax dollars.
That is secession. You’re trying to push a different agenda here.
Not pushing anything. They’ve threatened to stop paying taxes before. Look it up.
A threat is way different.
It’s crazy how often Lucy can yank that football away from you chumps.
Wow, your comment history is wild dude…just had to have a look.
The problem with the incoming fascist reality is that people like you think acknowledging that reality is “wild”
An alternative title is “Newsom declares candidacy for US President in 2028 election”. He is certainly casting himself as the heel in the kayfabe that will be US politics in the next four years.
Edited to add: He is term limited, and his term runs out in 2026. So he will have nothing better to do.
Please no, he’s just another limousine liberal, up there with Hillary and the gang. I think people are done with that. Let’s get some real revolutionaries in there.
Let’s get some real revolutionaries in there.
Do you want republicans to win the next election too?
next election?
Too?
What election?
If there’s another legitimate election, you want to double down on neoliberalism and trying to meet fascist in the middle yet again?
If we can’t elect a revolutionary, then it’s all over anyway until collapse, Trump is a symptom of the crony capitalist greed disease that’s infected both parties. It’s a shame we can’t even agree that our economy’s structure and incentives are the problem and requires drastic change, because without addressing that, nothing can begin to improve. It is the bloodsucking vampire elephant in the room.
I’ll vote for the actual limousine if it has a chance of beating the next MAGA candidate, whether it’s Vance, Trump Jr, or Donald Trump with a fake mustache that fools no one but his voters. (And as long as that limousine wins a contested primary.)
That’s the issue with the hard right candidates, people keep settling for Republican-lite Dems that don’t address core economic problems because they’re left in comparison, then predictably they lose to far right politicians when their moderate reforms don’t do anything other than provide temporary relief. We need actual left politicians to institute radical structural changes if we ever want to break this cycle. Or a revolution, but given the way this country is going I have no faith that the victors in that would be on the left
Bernie 😢
My man
What would the world have looked like if Bernie was the candidate against Donald…? 😕
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I dont want him to run. I’m tired of seeing neoliberal-lite candidates running and being forces to hold my nose “bcz the other candidate is worse.”
We can and should do better than this guy.
Newsom isn’t neoliberal light, he’s about as neoliberal as it’s possible to be
No, please no. Newsom is a textbook greasy CA neoliberal, a Newsom presidency would do next to nothing for the working class and bring a load of benefits to the wealthy.
I generally support his policies on education, environmental protection and long term economic stability but his positions on housing, single payer healthcare, corruption and democratic representation are awful.
So far he’s: vetoed a statewide upzoning bill that would get dense housing built statewide near public transit corridors, vetoed ranked preference voting across CA, opposed single payer healthcare and let the CPUC ride roughshod over utility customers and saddle them with PG&E’s felonious wildfire liability. The dude is Grey Davis’s protege and was basically raised by the Getty family, he’s absolutely not the candidate to run in a tight economy where populism is surging.
Edit: fun fact, we called him Teflon Gavin when he ran San Francisco. Nothing sticks to this guy’s PR. Fox news consumers have had 10+y of “commie California’s Gavin Newsom” poured into their heads in preparation for his eventual Whitehouse run and that will matter when he presents his slick well-fed wealthy self to middle America.
You left out that he was married to Kimberly Guilfoyle
Oh yeah, and after that he had the church of scientology throwing a parade of women at him to see if one would stick.
He’s the textbook old money nepobaby and while I have no qualms about his competence (they prepared him for big money politics extremely well) I don’t think he’s the change the working class wants to see in America. He certainly hasn’t brought much change to CA outside of funding primary education. We haven’t even begun to tackle living conditions for the bottom 80% here, he’s just a less bad option than whatever unpopular Republican ends up running against him. All of the social reform that actually works (boosting minimum wage, providing single payer healthcare, running cooperative local utilities or tackling corruption) is happening at the city and county level or as a ballot proposition. There’s resistance from Sacramento when anyone brings these up as statewide policies.
