• nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    15 days ago

    If you want real answers lets unpack why the Democrats messaging was to insist the economy is doing well when people have stagnant wages and have to spend more of their income by percent on food and housing. Everyone I know who makes about the same as me is completely unsurprised by this election, but the ones well off enough to believe the party line on the economy are completly shocked. This is the disconnect the dems need to address.

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      I don’t get it though. “My wages are shit, so I’ll vote for the hyper capitalist oligarchs who will make sure my wages stay shit”.

      Punching oneself in the face is not the cure for a bloody nose.

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        15 days ago

        If their wages are shit, do they want more of the same or any change at all? Seems pretty obvious to me why they voted that way, especially given they don’t understand economics.

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          I feel like Harris didn’t even need to explicitly say she would fix the economy or change everything as much as she just needed to come out and say shes aware the economy is not working for everyone. When voters who feel economically dejecected see someone say nothing is wrong, they get the feeling no one is going to help them. A little acknowledgement would have been great.

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        I think the idea is “he promises change, when she says there’s nothing to change”. He’s lying of course, but they hear him talking about an issue (without offering any reasonable solution) and threw their support behind him.

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          They didn’t throw their support behind him. He got the same number of votes as he got the last two times. The difference is Democrats didn’t turn out.

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          When I saw him talking, he only seemed to be telling boring stories about himself or doing his usual rants about his personal vendettas against others.

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        15 days ago

        Americans have no concept of class or class struggle.

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        Trump didn’t gain voters, Democrats lost voters. The people didnt see Kamalas message and switch to Trump, they saw her message and stayed home.

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        The problem, basically, is that people don’t really have any clear sense of how political decisions actually affect things like wages and cost of living, but they have a very strong sense that political decisions must be having some effect on those things.

        So when presented with the choice between “The situation we have” (which definitely sucks), and “something else” (which might suck) they opt for “something else”.