• _stranger_@lemmy.world
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    19 days ago

    So your floor here is “throw gas on the fire”. Got it. You admit at best he’ll be the same, and you’re advocating for it. Your stance doesn’t seem sane for someone who wants less pain and suffering.

    • RedWizard [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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      18 days ago

      So what is your plan exactly? You want to vote for a genocider, giving them the one thing you have in exchange, your one bargaining chip? And then what, write a strongly worded letter? Or are you one of those libs that intends to go back to brunch having “Done your part” in voting for “The lesser evil” who will still genocide the Palestinians? Could you be one of those people who want to “be done with politics” so that it’s “no longer in your face anymore”? You don’t strike me as the “organize my workforce towards collective action centered around Gaza” type.

      When you are making demands, you need leverage. The baseline leverage you have, is your vote. You’ve not leveraged a single thing.

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        18 days ago

        You can put your vote behind one of them or a trash can. Of the three, which is most likely to be influenced to go the direction you want?

        That’s what voting is for.

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          17 days ago

          If you give me your vote unconditionally, then I have what I wanted and give up nothing in return. Even if you stand outside and shout at me after you gave me your vote, it still doesn’t matter because you gave me what I wanted willingly with zero conditions. Clearly, my position on any topic is of no interest to you either, otherwise you would have tried to make a deal with me, but you didn’t.

          So how about this: You give me your vote, and I’ll do whatever the fuck I want.