• BugKilla@lemmy.world
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    19 days ago

    Whilst I respect her view on the situation in Gaza, is this not cutting your nose off to spite your face? There will be NO ability to influence a Trump and more broadly Republican government unlike a Democrat one. In fact under Trump you will see more overt support for Israel and even worse a contraction of US involvement in the situation to temper aggression. Also, given Trump’s war like provaclivity in the past, with authorising a strike in Iran, it is likely going increase the likelihood of escalation and a more widespread conflict.

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      Only if you think you are going to get what you are going to need with Democrats. And we have Democrats. And we’re not getting what we need.

      Sometimes you have to do things the hard way. Rashida’s job depends on her extolling the will of her constituents. Her job is to represent them not a brand called the DNC. If the DNC can’t be in the right on this matter, it truly is their problem.

      I think after this cycle we see the progressive block moving back to being ‘independents’, since Democrats have proven to be an unreliable/ worthless caucus member. Which is fine. There is probably more power on the outside right now.

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        I think after this cycle we see the progressive block moving back to being ‘independents’

        The thing is, we need to start jockeying for position immediately. Don’t wait until presidential campaigns start rolling around in 3 years before signalling a departure. These things take years to pick up steam.

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          Isn’t that what this article is signalling? This is Talib breaking, imo, in the strongest manner possible with the party.

          Talib is a Democrat not endorsing the Democrat for president. This might be Talib doing what Talib thinks she needs to do to hold her seat.

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            Perhaps you are right and she is the beginning of it. It will be interesting to see if she picks up a lot more support once the election is over and the focus is no longer on blocking Trump.

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        It’s a bold move. I suppose if you let in the guy who 100% supports the genocide and they go through in full with it, then you no longer have the problem 🤷‍♂️

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          Every Palestinian American who has lost a cousin to an American bomb after reading your comment:

          I get it. I get it that you are intentionally trying to not understand what is happening right now. But your lack of understanding doesn’t change what is hapening.

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            This isn’t ‘A cousin’ situation.

            I have multiple friends who’ve lost the entirety of their extended families.

            Aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews and grandparents gone in a day.

            The jackasses going around calling people ‘entitled’ for not supporting the party directly responsible for erasing their entire families from existence are entitled to be able to go through life with absolutely no empathy or imagination.

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          So… Both parties then?

          Edit: both parties support this genocide 100%.

          If you want to differentiate between Trump and Harris, you need to use a different policy position to do so. Gaza isn’t it.

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      The thing about voting for Harris is that if she wins while endorsing genocide it signals to the DNC that their constituents are either pushovers who can’t make demands of their elites or okay with genocide. There’s a very real argument that setting this precedent is going to be worse for America than four years of Trump with a Democrat Senate (assuming democrat voters don’t drop the ball on Senate elections) that’s doing opposition instead of cheering on the genocide. If the Dems know they can ignore their constituents and win, they’ll pander a lot more to Republicans and hasten the decay of American democracy.

      Note: I say genocide because this is the most important issue to Muslim voters, but it could be immigration, the lack of a primary, or any other DNC nonsense this election cycle.