The ad depicts women secretly voting differently from their husbands, a choice Gingrich said was immoral

Summary

Newt Gingrich blasted a Julia Roberts-led ad encouraging women to vote privately, calling it a sign of the sick values he attributes to Democrats. In a heated exchange with Sean Hannity, he accused the party of promoting dishonesty and moral decay in America, suggesting this reflects a broader erosion of societal integrity. Gingrich, who faced his own scandals, cited Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s recent split from the Democrats as further proof of disillusionment with what he sees as their corrupt influence.

  • LustyArgonian@lemmy.worldEnglish
    817·
    17 days ago

    Okay can we stop with the whole “Clinton was impeached for an affair.” It was because it was with a staffer he has power over. It was extremely inappropriate. We shouldn’t be cool with men in powerful positions abusing those positions to fuck people they have power over. Monica Lewinsky was literally half Clinton’s age (22 and 49) and was horrifically abused by all of society AND CLINTON and HIS WIFE.

    Like seriously if this was the president of a bank fucking some teller, who he is in charge of paying and promoting, no one would be confused why that banker should step down for abuse of power. The dude was president of the ENTIRE COUNTRY, and you can’t see how that’s abuse of power?

    Like fuck Newt but also fuck Clinton who was buddies with Epstein. And him leaving his wife who had cancer is EGREGIOUS.

    Eta: Lemmy is full of rapist apologists I guess. If you can’t understand how consent is VITAL and how it makes a world of difference, I hope you live a life being treated exactly how you treat others and women. There’s a man out there who will treat you, as a man, the same way. Good luck.

    • Wogi@lemmy.world
      24·
      18 days ago

      That is absolutely not what Clinton was impeached for.

      The investigation in to Clinton began before he’d ever met Lewinsky, and it was over some real estate dealings. Because Clinton had not actually committed an impeachable offense, Ken Starr had to keep going back to Congress to ask for a wider scope.

      The investigation took so long that after it began, Lewinsky was hired, Clinton won a re-election, there was sexual activity, word got out about it, and then Clinton lied about it under oath during a completely different deposition regarding a sexual harassment lawsuit filed by Paula Jones, which is what he was ultimately impeached for.

      It wasn’t the affair or the harassment, it was the lie, and it was only the lie because they were absolutely desperate to impeach Clinton for anything by that point.

      • LustyArgonian@lemmy.worldEnglish
        47·
        18 days ago

        It remains that the problem with the Monica Lewinsky relationship is that Clinton had power over her, not that he simply cheated. It added validity to the other sexual harassment claims because it was also a clear case of sexual harassment.

        I was quoting the other person about what specifically caused his impeachment. Regardless of the exact moment that caused it, the issue with Lewinsky remains as I’ve explained it: an abuse of power. It’s not that he “got impeached for a blowjob” or for cheating and when people phrase it like that, they are dismissing and ignoring the real concerns regarding abuse of power.

    • zalgotext@sh.itjust.works
      121·
      18 days ago

      The point of the comment you’re replying to isn’t to excuse Bill Clinton, it’s to point out Newt Gingrich’s hypocrisy.

          • LustyArgonian@lemmy.worldEnglish
            16·
            18 days ago

            while impeaching Bill Clinton for having an affair,

            Okay can we stop with the whole “Clinton was impeached for an affair.”

            See how this is the comment I took issue with and that’s what I started my comment with? Calling it an affair negates the abuse of power involved. As I explained ad nauseum. Just because you’re a man who doesn’t like respecting women, doesn’t mean I’ve been extremely clear.

            • zalgotext@sh.itjust.works
              51·
              18 days ago

              Calling it an affair draws a parallel to the affair Newt Gingrich was having with his dying wife you acorn

              • LustyArgonian@lemmy.worldEnglish
                15·
                18 days ago

                But it wasn’t just an affair. It was an abuse of power. Afaik Newt wasn’t having an affair with a staffer. So it’s a false equivalence, you acorn.

                • zalgotext@sh.itjust.works
                  41·
                  18 days ago

                  How are you this dense? It doesn’t matter if the acts are equivalent. One adulterer accusing another adulterer of adultery is hypocrisy.

                  • LustyArgonian@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    13·
                    17 days ago

                    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence#:~:text=False equivalence is a common,or ignorance of additional factors

                    False equivalence is a common result when an anecdotal similarity is pointed out as equal, but the claim of equivalence does not bear scrutiny because the similarity is based on oversimplification or ignorance of additional factors.

                    False equivalence arguments are often used in journalism[9][10] and in politics, where flaws of one politician may be compared to flaws of a wholly different nature of another.

                    Abuse of power (SEXUAL HARASSMENT AND ASSAULT) and cheating is what Clinton did. That’s different than simple cheating. Like my very first comment thoroughly explains this. If you are a man still arguing against me for this false equivalence, I’m going to assume you don’t care about rape and sexual assault. There’s a WORLD OF DIFFERENCE to the VICTIM if the act was CONSENSUAL or not. Hope this helps!

                    It’s definitely not dense at all to try to gaslight a woman into believing that sexual assault is the same as a consensual relationship just because they both involved cheating…

            • UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works
              81·
              18 days ago

              Let me tell you something, pendejo. You pull any of your crazy shit with us, you flash a comment like that out on the threads, I’ll move my mouse over your comment, and stick it right on the downvote and pull the fucking thing 'til it goes “click.”