A new survey from the progressive polling firm Data for Progress shows that voters across party lines are fed up with candidates using anti-trans rhetoric on the campaign trail.
Maybe they are big gun aficionados and don’t like the idea of gun control. Maybe they don’t like immigration. Or they’re rich and don’t like taxes. Or any number of other issues. But it all comes down to the idea that something else is more important to them than the rights of trans people.
I think it’s shameful that anything takes priority over human rights. That being said, it’s very human to ignore the happiness of people that aren’t directly involved in their lives.
because by saying “sad and shameful” they are not saying they oppose the gop rhetoric, they simply dont like the tone. 60% of gop still choose to vote for anti-trans candidate in the same survey.
A lot of them are living in parts of the country that are more rural. That means most of their friends and family, their community, is Republican. Losing that network of support would create trauma. It doesn’t make it ok for them to vote against the common good, but it allows for understanding the psychological challenge of switching parties.
Plus they probably hate Muslims and see nothing wrong with that.
It’s like the dipshits saying “they didn’t like the tweeting”, but still support donnie anyway. They don’t see - or care - about how their own party is putting others in harm’s way. Some of the marks in the party seem to bleat platitudes about how they think normal Americans don’t like donnie because of “mean tweets”.
It’s way beyond “mean tweets” and donnie being inartful. These assholes in the GOP mean this stuff. Project 2025 is not some fluke or side project or fringe. Project 2025 IS the GOP and it IS the conservative movement. It’s all the same shit. People keep trying to make some kind of hairsplitting arguments between GOP, the cons, donnie, Q, and Project 2025…it’s all the same exact swamp.
Because people are rarely single issue voters. There are a few here and there, but given the dominance of the US’s two-party system, you often have to make a choice. If I imagine 2 candidates: one who is strongly pro-choice but overtly anti-gay, and another who is strongly pro-life but also pro-LGBTQ issues, that would actually be a pretty tough decision for me.
As much as I want to hate Trump supporters, I can still sympathize with them. A lot are lifelong Republicans who are choosing between someone who will probably try to enact 90% of their personal beliefs but is an authoritarian crazy person, and someone who seems sane but disagrees with them on 90% of issues and will do everything to stymie the things they believe to be right. It’s not a simple choice.
I’m ignoring third-parties here as a caveat, so apologies if that’s the crux of your question. But my opinion is that you should push for and vote for a new system while accepting that the rules are what they are now, and you have to strategize with the current situation.
They probably have other reasons they vote republican. If they could cherry pick each issue, those 41% would obviously vote accordingly but the reality is it’s just one big game of red vs blue so it’s yet another complex topic reduced to a binary
Then why are they republican? Thats literally one of the GQPs top concerns right now.
It’s all they know. Their dad voted Republican, and his dad voted Republican, so I guess that means they don’t get a choice somehow.
Remember that the GOP used to be the party of Abraham Lincoln who ended the Civil War and slavery.
There are still some who hope to restore the party to its old glory, despite how far it’s fallen since.
Like always supporting the sports team from where they were born, just because they were born there.
Except if my team was ran by confirmed bigots for 60+ years I’d support a different team
You’d think reason alone would be enough.
You would be sorely mistaken.
Jesus, trucks, meat, and football. Pick any four.
“Voted for Eisenhower 'cause Lincoln won the war”
Because they have different priorities.
Maybe they are big gun aficionados and don’t like the idea of gun control. Maybe they don’t like immigration. Or they’re rich and don’t like taxes. Or any number of other issues. But it all comes down to the idea that something else is more important to them than the rights of trans people.
I think it’s shameful that anything takes priority over human rights. That being said, it’s very human to ignore the happiness of people that aren’t directly involved in their lives.
Trump is the only president to suggest an outright gun ban
because by saying “sad and shameful” they are not saying they oppose the gop rhetoric, they simply dont like the tone. 60% of gop still choose to vote for anti-trans candidate in the same survey.
A lot of them are living in parts of the country that are more rural. That means most of their friends and family, their community, is Republican. Losing that network of support would create trauma. It doesn’t make it ok for them to vote against the common good, but it allows for understanding the psychological challenge of switching parties.
Plus they probably hate Muslims and see nothing wrong with that.
Aren’t votes supposed to be secret?
Are we talking about votes or a poll?
It’s like the dipshits saying “they didn’t like the tweeting”, but still support donnie anyway. They don’t see - or care - about how their own party is putting others in harm’s way. Some of the marks in the party seem to bleat platitudes about how they think normal Americans don’t like donnie because of “mean tweets”.
It’s way beyond “mean tweets” and donnie being inartful. These assholes in the GOP mean this stuff. Project 2025 is not some fluke or side project or fringe. Project 2025 IS the GOP and it IS the conservative movement. It’s all the same shit. People keep trying to make some kind of hairsplitting arguments between GOP, the cons, donnie, Q, and Project 2025…it’s all the same exact swamp.
Because they’re not single issue voters for that specific cause.
Yeah you’re right, they were single issue voters for taking women’s rights, how silly of me to forget.
Because people are rarely single issue voters. There are a few here and there, but given the dominance of the US’s two-party system, you often have to make a choice. If I imagine 2 candidates: one who is strongly pro-choice but overtly anti-gay, and another who is strongly pro-life but also pro-LGBTQ issues, that would actually be a pretty tough decision for me.
As much as I want to hate Trump supporters, I can still sympathize with them. A lot are lifelong Republicans who are choosing between someone who will probably try to enact 90% of their personal beliefs but is an authoritarian crazy person, and someone who seems sane but disagrees with them on 90% of issues and will do everything to stymie the things they believe to be right. It’s not a simple choice.
I’m ignoring third-parties here as a caveat, so apologies if that’s the crux of your question. But my opinion is that you should push for and vote for a new system while accepting that the rules are what they are now, and you have to strategize with the current situation.
They probably have other reasons they vote republican. If they could cherry pick each issue, those 41% would obviously vote accordingly but the reality is it’s just one big game of red vs blue so it’s yet another complex topic reduced to a binary