We can’t let the media take the narrative back and let them do a smear campaign on this person who might not even be the shooter. He’s a suspect.
This ceo shooting broke the proverbial spell where what the population was actually saying wasn’t being guided or swayed by the news.
We need to keep the steam up on the media pushback. All those savage, snarky comments and memes left on every news article, fb post, tweet… they got overwhelmed by us. That needs to keep happening so they can’t go back to distracting and brainwashing people with fear and politics while they scapegoat this guy and try to make an example of him to the rest of us plebs.
They already tried to distract us with aliens and Diddy because people won’t stop saying how much they hate insurance companies. Keep voicing your discontent where ever they leave an open comment box. Please do it. Not only is it cathartic, but it upsets the oligarchs and everytime you upset an oligarch someone’s insurance is less likely to deny their claim.
God I wish dem aliens were real, if they were they’d have more than just “Hey guise, aliens might be real amybe”
Reading the coverage from mainstream Media is wild. Only The Guardian was brave enough to provide the other perspective that didn’t paint the CEO in some ultra kind light. But maybe it’s because they’re not based in the US.
Wait hang on what aliens
Bunch of weird stuff going on above NJ right now. Governor made an address after 21 mayors demanded answers. Military has been going nuts East of Ocean City and the South part of NJ.
Been going on since end of November, def not related to The Adjuster.
Just a nothing statement from the pentagon with a click bait title. It was a waste of internet space honestly.
I’ll save you a Google… the pentagon doesn’t know what ufos are.
This isnt the guy. This is their scapegoat. What I could read he seems to be a foreigner. Also the first part of the article is hilarious. Fucking cop who been on the job no more than 6 months and fellow officer saw this guy and just knew they have the right man no doubt in their minds didn’t think twice. Fucking doesn’t look like the killer even a little bit. Bunch fuck ups. Poor guy.
Edit: so guy isn’t a foreigner, but he isn’t the killer either.
It says he’s from a rich Baltimore family.
So Batman? If he is the killer which I highly doubt. Bet they fucked up and arrested the wrong guy.
Just saying the guy they arrested is not a foreigner.
Oh okay understand. Still he is Batman may be walk free.
^ Such a fucking delusional post. Jesus fuck.
Get ratio’d shill.
just knew they have the right man no doubt in their minds
As a crim minor, this is the start to every documentary they show you about coerced confessions that have been discovered as false
there’s no way this is the guy. if he gets convicted it’ll be because cops and DAs want the case closed at all costs because it’s so high profile.welp seems like this is him
Alright that guy’s gonna get the most ripped statue ever
I wish him a very merry
mistrialJURY NULLIFICATION. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqH_Y1TupoQNah, mistrial means he can get tried again at a later date.
Wish him a very happy not guilty verdict via JURY NULLIFICATION
We should start a pardon petition.
I would love to see a massive boycott of MacDonald everywhere (at least in the US), I am surprised that this hasn’t come up somewhere online yet. That would be powerful signal IMO
He needs to say something to the public. Like “I regret that I have but one life to give for my country.” I don’t know where I got that from. Probably read it on the Internet or something.
“Remember, if you admit you knowing what Jury Nullification is during selection, you wont be picked.”
I certainly don’t know what it is.
Never heard of it. Never seen a show with it, never read a book on it, or read up on it online.
In fact, those two words together? I ain’t seen them like that ever, and I’m pretty sure it ain’t English. Just like this guy, I ain’t seen him do it. Ain’t him.
Looks like the dude had back pain, healthcare provier wouldnt pay to get it fixed so he took revenge.
ITT conspiracy theories abound already.
These companies don’t care about you, or your kids, or your grandkids. They have zero qualms about burning down the planet for a buck, so why should we have any qualms about burning them down to survive?
This gave me a raging boner
The suspect was at a McDonald’s in Altoona, Pennsylvania and was recognized by an employee who then called local police.
I’m accusing parallel construction. The released photos have so little detail that there must be a hundred thousand Americans that match their appearance.
To be fair, the video of the shooter had the upper half of his face.
And the guy they arrested has the upper half of his face.
Although I have the upper half of my face.
Do you have the upper half of your face? If not we can probably rule you out.
Someone did their Snowden reading:
Parallel construction is a law enforcement process of building a parallel, or separate, evidentiary basis for a criminal investigation in order to limit disclosure as to the origins of an investigation.
In the US, a particular form is evidence laundering, where one police officer obtains evidence via means that are in violation of the Fourth Amendment
De facto illegal and shady as hell, but in use when the (feds especially) want to catch someone, typically via warrantless SIGINT mass surveillance. They’ll do the investigation using dragnets and broad searches through metadata and other means that are illegal and inadmissible in court, then an incredibly convenient cop/witness/informant will appear with information that permits an arrest/search under permissible means - under the hope that the suspect has incriminating evidence.
This is wayyy too convenient to get him, with all the evidence on hand, from a ‘concerned citizen’. We live in a police state, that serves the ruling and moneyed class.
He made it all the way to middle-of-nowhere PA, but he was still carrying all the evidence on him? Sounds like they found Spartacus
The bootlickers never cease to amaze me. A McDonald’s employee? Are you fucking kidding me?
As much as I dislike them calling, I can’t really be mad at someone who’s making minimum or near-minimum wage for being tempted by the reward money. There’s a good chance they’re living paycheck to paycheck.
And they’ll be back to paycheck to paycheck soon enough.
Have a little faith in humanity? If it’s a 19 year old working through college that’s basically their whole 4 year tuition and them some in that area
Didn’t say I didn’t have faith. But the likelihood they will have much in a years’ time is extremely low.
You must not know how much tuition is. That’ll cover a year at a place like NYU. Maybe 2 years for an out-of state school.
Well this guy literally had all incriminating evidence on him. With that level of carelessness, he’s gonna get caught sooner or later. Like the pulling the mask down is just asking for trouble.
Maybe he just wanted to chill a bit and see himself famous before eventually planning to let himself get caught. Who knows?
I mean, he might just wanna let himself get caught to not have the blame pinned on a scapegoat.
Having all the incriminating evidence on him seems… Extremely unlikely considering the rest of what we know about the situation.
That’s the type of shit you’d expect from desperate police planting evidence. Planting a random suppressor, a supposedly “phantom” 3d printed gun, and a manifesto isn’t exactly hard. Only the gun could possibly be directly traced to the bullets fired, and that’s not something they can test in the field.
Not saying that’s necessarily the case here, but this would not be the first time law enforcement, including the FBI, planted evidence because of outside pressures.
Ehh…
I mean, there’s probably CCTV footage of him chillin’ in the McDonalds, and also the bodycam footage of the cops entering the Mcdonalds and searching him. Its not that easy to plant a bunch of evidence with all those cameras aroung, and creating a bunch of fake bodycam footage isn’t really that easy. So as long as they release those video footage, I’d believe this is the guy.
Do they plant the evidence on him in the McDonald’s, or is it just in a bag at the station and it’s “found on him” when they search him there? Planting it publicly seems hard. Would have to give every officer a bag of “evidence” or know who was going to respond to the call. Besides the whole not getting seen planting it by the public.
I think its standard operating procedure to search a suspect right after detaining to make sure he doesn’t have weapons, so I’d assume its all on the bodycam footage.
Well, if they release bodycam footage of the arrest right at the mcdonalds and also the searched conducted in the same footage, without any cuts, then I’d believe it.
If theres any cuts, or weird video artifacts, or if experts say the footage could be faked, then I’m gonna be very sus.
Rich people are the only class with any solidarity.
It sucks major but it could be someone who lives in a small bubble, doesn’t use social media, and only watches fox news. Or whatever local news channel. If that’s all they see, they might think they did the right thing. They could be oblivious.
They could also be a bootlicker. Time will tell if we get more info. If their info is released the 50k probably won’t be worth it.
I mean, he has a very active Twitter account
Who probably doesn’t even have health insurance at all. People acting against their own self-interest are all over the place.
How is tipping off the police to get the cash reward against your self interest? Holy fuck dude.
Plenty of people bought in to the messages of popular media. Hard to change a mind that follows so blindly.
Not really “bootlicker”.
A victim of propaganda.
Or “useful idiot”
Or really just someone on a shit wage with rent and bills that saw 50k as an end to their immediate issues.
How about posting a gofundme (or whatever) to collect whatever money they want to not snitch
One can make a good living stealing out of a blind man’s cup.
Someone that has their own morals, and thinks killing is bad? Totally a bootlicker! For me its about principles. The death of this CEO changes nothing
The principle should be “harm society at large, abandon the protections of society”.
Not a fan of human rights, are you?
Someone that has their own morals, and thinks killing is bad?
Can we guarantee they’d report him if there was no financial incentive?
The system really doesn’t give a fuck about your or anyone else’s morals, let’s not pretend otherwise. That’s why they put a bounty on the killer, after all.
So if killing one person is bad, isn’t killing hundreds to thousands of innocent people/year hundreds to thousands of times more bad?
I think their argument is his death changes nothing.
It does, though. This guy was a fucking asshole even for a health insurance company CEO.
I mean, yes it does change things for CEO+family. But nothing is going to change regarding how these companies treat people.
I meant in the sense that he took a, well, normal insurer and raised its claim denial rates to one of the highest in the industry. The world is legitimately a better place with him gone, because while I doubt UHC will accept more claims at least he won’t be around to kill even more people.
He isn’t except from the justice system last time I remember. He is also not personally and individual to blame for the sole responsibility of those deaths. Also a murder isn’t the same as a person dying of something else because that didn’t get treated.
I’m not a total corpo bootlicker no worries, but I believe this is just one more death this whole system claims and I despise the celebration of his death. I believe in the end this death changes nothing, like I said
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Idealistic teenagers will get you every time. Old enough to drink the Flavor Aid, young enough to not have the experience to temper it.
That $50,000 bounty is likely a bigger payout than two years of wages as a burger flipper…
And this is how the elite force us “lowers” to fight against each other instead of fighting them.
It’s always been that way and will always be that way. The point isn’t to stop the infighting entirely, it’s to work in such ways as to reduce the impact it has on the goals we should be striving to achieve. Namely a better world for everyone.
It doesn’t have to always be this way
It will always be this way because people have opinions and perspectives. The two best ways to lessen infighting is by having a simple and common end goal. The second is a leader. Find both of these and I guarantee people will follow.
Sure, but there’s a reason that scabs used to be beaten and shunned. Solidarity means everyone, and the consequences for breaking it need to be high or it’s too easy for the bosses to pick people off one by one by offering them bonuses for ratfucking their peers.
It would be a shame if the person who sold out were publicly identified. Hopefully that will never ever happen.
Yes, in all honesty, hopefully that will never happen.
What, are you hoping for vigilante justice against a minimum wage worker?That person should be publicly shamed for the class traitor they are
Did you forget that shame exists? Not all, hell not even most calls to name an offender are a call for violence, the vast majority are calls for accountability and potentially shame.
I’m no expert, but wouldn’t the snitch have to pay taxes on the reward they receive? So they have earned the ire of a nation for a small stack of cash that they’ll likely blow within a year. Smort.
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First they let Trump work the fryer for a PR stunt, now this. Fucking McDonald’s…
If they weren’t already on your boycott list, now’s the time.
I don’t eat at McDonald’s for a variety of reasons, but I doubt very much that the company has anything to do with the guy being called in.
Doesn’t matter. They’ve been at the forefront of bullshit lately, and their product is shit/expensive. McD’s is one of the organizations that needs to just end.
Some people really do seem to believe that “murder is wrong.” Who’d have thought?
“Murder is wrong, even if its Osama Bin Laden or even Adolf Hitler”
Nuance: unjustified murder is wrong. Someone who dedicates their life to destroying others for profit, murdering them is significantly less violent than letting them persist, and is therefore justified.
Nuance… There are people calling for violence against the McDonald’s employee who reported the murderer to the police.
Tankies didn’t know the meaning of the word “nuance”. People who express nuance are “Nazi sympathizers” or “class traitors”. Anyone with a remotely “centrist” view is “sitting in a Nazi bar” and therefore culpable.
This place is a shithole of absolute moralism.
The leading sentiment in this thread is that while that worker is indeed a class traitor, that their decision was at least understandable due to the financial crunch they’re likely in as a McDonald’s employee.
YOU are exhibiting absolute moralism and an abandon of nuance by cherry picking a few extremists to represent the entire response that’s growing against the unethical direction health insurers’ have taken their industry.
If you see a call for violence against the McD worker, report it.
Cherry picking??? There are tons of examples!
“Fuck the people who reported him.”
“That McDonald’s worker should be hiding”
“The employee sent someone to live life in prison. As far as drag’s concerned, that is murder.”
Something something “nazi bar” my friend. Or in this case it’s a “tankie bar”.
“Fuck the people who reported him.”
Yeah, fuck em. They decided to be a piece of shit. That isn’t a call to violence.
“That McDonald’s worker should be hiding”
Probably should be - they just pissed off nearly an entire country. That isn’t a call to violence either.
“The employee sent someone to live life in prison. As far as drag’s concerned, that is murder.”
While not accurate, it’s still not a call to violence.
…maybe cherry picking isn’t what you’re doing after all - it’s sounding more like you’re just making shit up and projecting some fantasy tankie persona onto the comments you don’t agree with.
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Damn. I was hoping he’d get away with it.
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It is always possible they got the wrong guy.
We can only hope
