Summary
Donald Trump and Republicans are falsely framing his 2024 election win as a historic “landslide” and sweeping mandate, despite the data showing otherwise.
Trump won the popular vote by just 1.6%, the smallest margin for a winning president since 1968, and his 307 electoral votes rank low in U.S. history.
Crucial Senate and House gains were limited, with Republicans relying on gerrymandering for their narrow House majority.
This exaggeration of victory serves to justify potential power expansions, but the facts debunk claims of an unprecedented or overwhelming mandate.
It’s time to nip that lie in the bud
Frankly, I’m sick and tired of nipping MAGA lies in the bud every day. It’s been the better part of a decade of this bullshit already… I fucking hate that my countrymen chose this for us for the next four years. Fuck every Trump voter, but a much bigger fuck you goes out to all the jackasses that stayed home on the 5th. You’re complicit, and I don’t give a shit why you think fascism is “okay” as long as you got to punish the Democratic Party for your grievances.
Exactly, until media reframes this from distraction politics to a call to action none of this matters. Wake me up when we have a functioning government again.
I’ll be focusing locally on building mutual aid networks and contributing as much as I can to local policy and governance.
I’m sick and tired of anywhere near half of the voting public choosing him.
I think the bigger message is that our information environment is totally screwed.
The eye-opener for me was watching our local news station interview college students coo and rave over how “strong” he was and repeat (apparently not) obvious misinformation.
It wasn’t about apathy, not really… He just won an influencer war. And now the CEO of Twitter is basically president…
Wait until the idiots graduate and look for a job. The Orange Bag of Shit holds the record for US unemployment and he has a very good chance of breaking it again.
To be fair, and president would have been screwed over during covid, even if they had “contained” it (which, looking at China, seems highly unlikely).
If you voted for Harris, you’re complicit, and I don’t give a shit why you think blue fascism is “okay” as long as it means your rights are protected at the expense of others
Edit: to be clear, I mean complicit in the currently occurring Palestinian genocide and overall maintenance of the status quo
My choice was Trump or not!Trump.
I picked not!Trump. Harris could have been a literal turkey sandwich on a plate, I still would have voted for her. She’s not great, I actually wanted to vote for Bernie Sanders in Andrew Yang’s body, but that’s not gonna happen.
My choice was revolution or status quo.
I picked, and continue to pick, revolution
revolution? No candidate is or ever will offer revolution. That’s not a choice you can make at the polls
Exactly? While I did vote for De La Cruz since I was there anyway to vote on other races/amendments, the context of this discussion is people who didn’t vote
I mean not voting is not picking revolution either, it’s just handing more power to those who do vote.
Voting at all legitimizes the system, and lulls people into a false sense of satisfaction with having “done their part.” Abstaining is valid
Hahaha, is it a hidden secret revolution? I see no sign of it or it’s effects…
Just because I choose it doesn’t mean it ‘wins’. Just like how y’all chose Harris and she didn’t win
I do my own local praxis, but I assume we live in different places
Well the revolution you picked got us 4 more years of Trump so 😬
Nah, the DNC’s choice to run with Harris, and doing it last minute, coupled with a focus on trying to convince hungry USians that the economy is great, so they should stop whining did it.
Cool, lemme know when y’all get started. I’m not seeing any torches and pitchforks yet, or even people with baseball bats and masks. When “revolution” finally gets off of Lemmy/Matrix/Signal and into the streets, I’ll believe it.
Ooo I get to say the thing!
Read theory
Edit: (so you’ll understand what praxis is)
Ah, theoretical revolution. The most effective kind.
Read it. But a few million comrades living out actual solidarity and comradeship, joining mutual aid coalitions, feeding unhoused people and refusing consumerism still isn’t affecting the systems of hierarchy and oppression, monopolization of violence, rules of place, terror, and exploitation. The quiet Revolution in the homes of families and certain workplaces, some scattered neighborhoods and the hearts and minds of comrades around the nation still isn’t stopping the cops from dragging us to the camps, the landlords evicting us, and the employers squeezing us. We’ve tried educating, discussion, solidarity, activism, and some of us even tried sabotage and outright violence, for over a hundred years, yet the imperial core seems strong as ever, and the zones of accumulation continue reaping profits and resources from the areas of dispossession. Children are still dying from weapons bought with our blood and sweat and labor. How then do we truly dismantle these systems of oppression, when our own relatives call us brainwashed traitors, when our neighbors support the oppression of others, and the very product of our labor is used to perpetuate violence?
I picked, and continue to pick, revolution
Contrary to what you may believe, sitting at home and posting on lemmy is not a revolutionary act.
Contrary to your belief, posting on Lemmy isn’t the only thing everyone does…
Like, I’ve been posting a lot to lemmy… This Saturday, I’m going to the range with a close group of family. Before shooting time, we’re doing a STB refresher course. Sunday, over dinner, we’ll be planning out the garden plots on the street.
I’m not interested in making the feds’ job easier by proving myself to you. How about you do something meaningful for your community instead of patting yourself on the back for filling in a useless bubble in support of diet fascism
That’s nice dear. Now run along. The grown ups are talking.
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“Some of you may die, but it’s a sacrifice I am willing to make” mfer
^ literally people who voted for Harris, lmao. Sacrificing others for your own temporary safety
“If you voted for the only other viable option in the election, you’re responsible for Trump” is a very strange claim.
Maybe if we correct the Republicans they’ll listen. Yeah, that’ll work.
It’s not gonna win anything and we shouldn’t act like it will.
Still, no reason not to be correct about it. He’s gonna try and make his delusions national news, so, gotta have the reality out there.
Republicans are trying to gaslight us by calling Trump’s win a landslide. The point isn’t to correct them; it’s to make sure we don’t believe the lies they tell us.
The problem is that in practical terms it is a landslide, because of the way our shitty system is setup. They have control of all 3 branches now.
Too late. It’s that whole thing where it takes ten times the effort to undo misinformation than to introduce it (or however that goes). This narrative is here to stay. Those who try to counter it will just be in the role of the “Well Ackchyually” guy in the conversation
Well, facts do matter. And as much as possible, sane people need to push back on fascists just redeclaring terms to mean something else. They keep trying to do the same thing with the term insurrection. They have been calling anything and everything an “insurrection” to try to dilute the fact that their so-called president stoked a real insurrection.
I’m not in disagreement
A lie can make it around the world before the truth even has a chance to put it’s shoes on.
Bad actors take advantage of this so often I’m surprised truthful material gets out into the world at all.
Have you seen the crowd in his 2016 inauguration? It was huuuge. Or how he fit 80,000 people in a 20,000 capacity venue.
People should know by now that he exaggerate everything including the size of his mushroom penis.
Fungi are not amused by association with Trump’s penis.
Did Mehdi really write this on the 3rd? I’ve heard him saying this at least a week ago. Seems kinda pathetic to rehash this over and over again.
He won bro. He’s president of the ENTIRE COUNTRY it doe at matter how you cope.
He does everything he blames the other side of doing, which means he cheated. Ballot boxes were burned. Mail-in ballots went “missing”. They rigged the election just well enough for it to not be glaringly obvious to those who weren’t paying as much attention.
Ok
Yea. Cool story bro. It’s a sporting event. Put on your cheerleader outfit and jump around.
(P.S. that is what you sound like)
You went around telling people that about Obama and Biden too, right?
Yeah. That’s how elections work lmao
yeah we know, what’s your point
That’s pedantic. They won the trifecta of government. The definition of landslide is academic at this point.
It might only be pedantic/academic if the term was only being used in an educational setting. Instead, it’s bandied about nearly every day since the election, and it does need to stop.
the point is to wake us up to that our resistance coalitions needn’t be small
resistance coalitions
Good luck with that. The last chance for an organized resistance was the 90’s before we put in mass surveillance. It’s game set and match at this point. The only chance now is maybe the hardcore blue states succeed, but that didn’t end well last time either.
the best time was 25 years ago. the second best time is right now. it’s a lot like planting a tree.
A resistance coalition isn’t insurrection when it’s a left leaning coalition.
The “resistance” is ineffective and fractured because its supposed leaders are largely genocidal.
who? name names. who are these resistance leaders aiding in genocide. and don’t say joe biden. if you say joe biden you don’t understand what we’re talking about.
this is a decentralized movement of care. any weakness we have is that we’re uncoordinated because we lack any leadership
It’s not academic, it’s relative to the various examples he cites in the article
In states where he won, it was either a blood-red wave, or barely past 50%.
I mean, yea? What are the other options?
Who cares he still fucking won. We are fucked regardless.
Wait, did a major outlet just use “lie” in its headline?
I’m impressed. Even for an op-ed.
Anyway, this cannot be repeated enough. I’m already sick of people trying to say it’s “historic”, it’s a “landslide”, etc…give me a break.
Who cares about the label? The only descriptor that matters is “President-elect Trump” and that one is not in dispute. The rest is either semantics or copium that doesn’t impact anything in a material fashion.
Well, I can only speak for myself in that terms and facts matter. And I’m not one for letting fascists frame the narrative; they’ll keep pushing the Overton window and pushing and pushing…
Maybe the media themselves shouldn’t have been running around talking about the absolutely massive and devastating defeat the Democrats suffered the day after the election… Maybe they should have waited for all the results?
Nahhh… Clicks clicks clicks! It’s all that matters! Money money money!
All corporate media:
Trump won the popular vote by just 1.6%, the smallest margin for a winning president since 1968…
What about Trump and Bush 2 both losing the popular vote yet winning the presidency?
It’s ok for liberals to criticize trump, but revealing the sham of “democracy” is a few steps too far.
I like how both the right and the left now use “liberals” to insult people not politically aligned with them.
And I thought the word lost all meaning back when Rush Limbaugh used it to mean anyone to the left of him.
Its not an insult, per se. Its a categorization of the individual’s beliefs, and also an understanding of what, exactly, our system is, in the US.
And yes, folks on the left don’t like liberals all that much, ie:
“The White liberal is the worst enemy to America and the worst enemy to the Black man. Let me first explain what I mean by this White liberal. In America there’s no such thing as Democrats and Republicans anymore. That’s antiquated. In America you have liberals and conservatives. This is what the American political structure boils down to among Whites. The only people who are still living in the past and thinks in terms of “I’m a Democrat” or “I’m a Republican” is the American Negro. He’s the one who runs around bragging about party affiliation and he’s the one who sticks to the Democrat or sticks to the Republican, but White people in America are divided into two groups, liberals and Republicans…or rather, liberals and conservatives. And when you find White people vote in the political picture, they’re not divided in terms of Democrats and Republicans, they’re divided consistently as conservatives and as liberal. The Democrats who are conservative vote with Republicans who are conservative. Democrats who are liberals vote with Republicans who are liberals. You find this in Washington, DC. Now the White liberals aren’t White people who are for independence, who are liberal, who are moral, who are ethical in their thinking, they are just a faction of White people who are jockeying for power the same as the White conservatives are a faction of White people who are jockeying for power. Now they are fighting each other for booty, for power, for prestige and the one who is the football in the game is the Negro. Twenty million Black people in this country are a political football, a political pawn an economic football, an economic pawn, a social football, a social pawn…” - Malcom X
And of course, Reich Wingers don’t like liberals all that much, because they are the less authoritarian (Not un-authoritarian, mind you) than they are.
Half of Lemmy seems to believe that Trump won by a landslide. Remember a comment upvoted like crazy yesterday talking about how hard he won.
I mean I get it, the fact that he won by any amount is horrifying but nuance exists. I’m glad to see this article attempting to clear it up
Well, however you want to put, in terms of control Republicans won The House The Senate The Presidency
So yeah that’s a lot. Whether it’s because Trump “won” it or the Democrats “lost” it, the end result is going to be pretty heavy
What’s being discussed here though is the margin he won by. Which is smaller than many seem to suggest
Lies are a crucial foundation for fascism.
That horse left the stable a long time ago. Once the MAGA crowd latches onto something they don’t let go. They’re still claiming TFG won in 2020, for crying out loud.
Doesn’t mean everyone else has to coddle them in their stupid fantasies.
