Win 10 was definitely an improvement over 8. I’d even argue that 10 as it started out was the best since xp. Of course now 10 has been fully enshitified but it used to be good.
I would agree that 10 was very good, but i could say similar things about windows 11 which in many ways performs better then 10.
And yet its shortly after upgrading to 11 that i switched to linux to never look back.
I think part of the logic in this meme is that it doesn’t matter how good the basic functions of the operating system are but what does is the design philosophy of the company. Loyalty in other systems decreased while Loyalty in windows gained.
Microsoft force feeding edge, onedrive, burrying the local account option till after the install with Microsoft account.
Randomly finding an update put a second weather widget on my taskbar that shows a different weather then the one in start. Taskbar icons that cant be closed, only hidden.
These things don’t affect the OS functionality in a big deal but its like i was in an abusive relationship that i finally got out of. No matter how much sweet talking and promises to do better i am not going back.
I’d even argue that 10 as it started out was the best since xp
How can you so batantly skip over Win 7? I’ve heard some argue 10 was better (it wasn’t) but that 7 >> XP was pretty undisputed.
All three are shit compared to Linux, of course (Arch btw).
Relatively speaking yes, absolutely speaking, Windows bad
8 wasn’t nearly as bad as people think, and there were big improvements to the kernel that make it a definite improvement over 7.
The problem for most people was the Start screen, which if you could get past, left you with what was a really good OS.
Less ads and telemetry than 10, too.
What’s so bad about win 11 as an OS? For me it’s the most stable windows. Of course the MS crap they want you to include is bs, but that’s not really the OS
Rule of thumb: If it’s included with an install where you’re clicking through the defaults, to the average user the distinction doesn’t matter, it’s part of the OS
It’s part of the OS? All of the telemetry, ads, and strange news thingy is a standard part of the OS - if you try to remove it, it’ll just get back with any updates.
So it is really the OS
it’s the same way ubuntu bad now, forcing snaps
So what you’re saying is that there has only ever been one Mac OS and one Linux OS?
How about adding some distros?
How about adding some distros?
I ain’t gonna stop you.
The colouring is shit, MacOS turns red at its peak. So, was it good or bad at that moment?
Made in China moment.
Red is good in the east, green is bad.
It was the best of OS, it was the worst of OS.
So good, it’s bad
time just startend standing still for Windows after 10
Win10 was the last good version of Windows.
i was joking 'Bout the graph, but youre also wrong. Windows XP Was the last good, or 7 maybe.
NT 3.5 was the last good version. Fight me.
Where’s RedstarOS?
Easy to have a constant upward trend when you start off in your parents basement…
Windows 10 is good, so I don’t trust the rest of this now.
The only thing I disagree with here is Win8 being apparently better than Win10.
Win8 was really damn annoying to use without a touchscreen, and while Win8.1 did help, Win10 was by far the better implementation of PC Metro IMO.
Having said that, Win11 is exactly where it needs to be. It’s all of Win10’s worst traits cranked up to 11 with a heaping of it’s own bullshit and spyware on top
Win8 was really damn annoying to use without a touchscreen
So many people say that but I actually liked the menu. It opened very fast and you could far more quickly find and hit the right tile than that stupid nested programs tree that was the norm in the start menus of earlier Windows versions.
I’d say considering that telemetry started to creep in primarily with Win 10, 8 was indeed better (meaning less bad).
Personally, I felt like Win8 was an over correction in favor of touch screens vs Win7. Win8.1 was kind of the sweet spot for getting touch screen functionality into Windows while maintaining a consistent UI between tablets, laptops, and desktops. So much so that I would consider it to be separate point on the chart between 8 and 10.
Win10 did improve the UI a bit over that, but was so much of a step backwards in basically every other regard that I do consider that the point at which Windows started trending consistently downwards. As in, Win10 should be lower then Win7 on that curve, with Win11 lower than that, and no real hope that any future updates or versions will ever improve anything.
Windows 10 should be a dead cat bounce on this chart. Better than 8, worse than 7, better than 11 by a lot.
This implies that Linux is rising but still worse than the worst windows os 🫣🫠🫤😴🤧🤮🥴
the graphs are separate, not superimposed. I agree it’s confusing
They look together to me
I feel like they should cross. For a long time Linux really was “worse” than Windows in the sense that you needed some computer knowledge and deal with incompatibilities with the OS that most people were using; both have gotten better in recent years and Windows has gotten worse, so for some use cases i’d say we could be at the point that the lines cross.
Written from my Mint laptop, absolutely perfect but i’ve only used it for internet and office so nothing fancy
Yup. For me it similar. I was getting frustrated with the lack of customization in Win11, while at the same time seeing that Linux is actually viable for me with the Steam Deck.
I’ve been running Linux for a year now and while it was good enough for me to switch back then, it’s incredible how much better it has gotten since then.
Linux is so bad it’s worse than everything else even when others are enshittifying aggressively? Got it!
Over the years I’ve tried switching to Linux and it definitely was less user friendly. I think Mint has made huge strides and hopefully will be able to take over.
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I tried Ubuntu in 2015 or so, and Mint in 2018, and quit both times. Now i’ve been using Mint since last July.
I don’t know if it’s because Linux changed or i changed, but one way or another something clicked. I’m planning on switching entirely to Mint before Win10 reaches end of life because there’s no way i’m installing Win11, so i have to migrate my whole workflow by then.
Very good, I’m happy to see you’re learning new stuff!
Windows Vista was better than 8 and 10, a lot of legacy devices in industry kept extended Vista support for years and years.
Having used both, Windows Vista was much worse than windows 8.
Yes, this is my experience also, it was stable and only a few (at the time) legacy bs didn’t work out of the box.
Charting is ops passion!!
10 and 11 are waaaaaaaay better than 8. But meme is meme.
The software I run a 8 figure business with only works in windows and macs. Not a specific title but the software for an entire industry. Linux is nice but still a novelty in my world.
Same. Until Linux is supported by scada systems it will only be a service, non-hmi OS, in my world.
The sad part is a lot of modern SCADAs and DCSs are migrating or have already migrated to HTML, but using Microsoft technologies as core. 🤦♂️
What software is that? Is it something with a really heavy desktop client by nature (e.g CAD, video editing), or could it instead have a browser-based frontend?
Yes, CAD/CAM stuff like Catia, SW, mastercam, etc. It will take a lot of market share improvements to convince the developers to bother with a port. I’m no M$ fanboy, just no real production alternative.
I really wish SW ran on Linux. That would get me to switch over entirely.
you can run sw 2022 and 2023 in some distros. https://github.com/cryinkfly/SOLIDWORKS-for-Linux
doesn’t work in mint tho, i tried.
How good does it run in the supported distros?
no idea, i can’t get any other distros to work properly
So much grief caused by the widespread move from Unix to Windows in the industry sector. The Unix dwarves grew too greedy, their hardware platforms too niche… they unleashed the beast from the depths. An IBM-PC so powerful, it quashed their empires!
I reckon they might be using a lot of Windows specific libraries, making any porting a real pain in the ass. And when you’re in that space, unfortunately people just have to choose the OS that goes with their applications, not the other way around.
It’s literally easier to start an entirely new CAD/CAM project and make that cross-platform. Unfortunately, that’s a 7 or 8 figure proposition to get started as well (probably 8 for a polished product that can pull proper market share).
Maybe out of the box, but with classicshell 8 was better
my dad genuinely preferred Windows 8 with Classic Shell over Windows 7.
Linux isn’t an upward curve, either. It mostly is, but those krackle-pops have to put a dent in the curve.
Idk macos has kinda always been the same. I would see them as consistently meh.
