I just hope they have the raw milk distribution set up to go live nationwide at the same time. I want all the people excited for this to get it, and enjoy it for as long as possible before the news gets to them.
Unpasteurised milk drank at cow temperature ‘can’ be fine - depending on the cow, milker and drinker. It’s ludicrous to even suggest it could be safely distributed nationally in the US. He’s an absolute lunatic - and so is anyone who buys it.
At the moment farm sales are OK in all states.
Seems like obtaining raw milk in a safe environment isn’t a problem.
By “farm sales” do you mean from a small herd kept by an actual farmer who is geographically close to the purchaser; as opposed to buying from either an industrial creamery and/or factory farm?
Milk, by its very nature, has some risk involved in its consumption… but from udder to mouth it’s not exactly akin to Russian roulette / certain death as some are claiming.
At first I thought this might be fine because the idiots are doing it to themselves. Then I remembered many of the idiots also are parents.
I know. It’s, potentially, an absolute tragedy. These (adult) people are so confident / smug in avoiding the “woke virus” that they seem to have forgotten that it’s the real viruses and pathogens that take us out. In droves. Throughout history. Again and again.
my parents raised us drinking raw milk from a farm down the road. I’m so glad nothing bad happened to me.
This is the dumbest shit I swear to god. Fuck this timeline already.
Dude is gonna get ppl killed…raw milk…jesus
Unless he also outlaws pasteurized milk, I’ll have 0 sympathy for any adults that die drinking raw milk. This country seems to be in dire need of a toxic cleansing. I’m sad COVID didn’t do the job better.
Dude, you have to be careful these days. Reading labels like a hawk.
National pharmacy chains like CVS and Walgreens stock homeopathic and naturopathic remedies on the same shelves as the actual medicine (or the bullshit they tell us is as good as pseudoephedrine. Fuck you, you know it’s not). Most of it is barely labeled as such.
If we are hopeful, that’s what RFK should go after in fact. Homeopathy.
But, judging from where he starts, skoleotherapy, as in worm treatment, is the new fashion for you.
I wanna play Plague Inc again.
While I get it and I wish people were more informed it’s because education has been dismantled on purpose. No one deserves do die, especially from the actions of others directly or indirectly. We really need to fight for better education standards and not stop, not go and dismantle the department of education…
The only thing covid did was fhinder education with online classes and such. This is the year that the children born (19/20) right at the start of the pandemic are going to kinder they need all the support they can get…
lets be better and do better, you can’t fight fire with fire…
My (night school) education, personally, improved quite a lot with COVID. Yep, it was disrupted. But instead of spending two hours in transport I’d be at my desk. Instead of just sitting in a boring depressing auditory with my ADHD, ASD and possibly PTSD, I was at my desk with tea and my laptop and maybe some food and my dog nearby.
Never heard of a fire break, eh?
Be stirring as the time; be fire with fire; Threaten the threatener and outface the brow Of bragging horror
Shakespeare
You haven’t really tasted milk until you’ve sucked it right out a cow and finally we’ll have a government that makes sure that Americans know that taste too.
I’ve had fresh milk from the cow. I also now why pasteurization is required. I’m willing to forego that small pleasure in order that other people don’t die horribly.
Shifting yourself to death is what the founder intended and their imagined intent is literally all that matters.
The People’s CDC, much like the factory, must grow.
trump’s appointments are in the style “Who is the worst person i know for the job that lives inside my colon?”
if Pablo Escobar was still alive, he’d probably have been appointed head of the DEA
Junior’s gonna get that job.
He’s Colombian, that won’t fly for Trump
El chapo is a better candidate
At least it isn’t a contagion no? Like it’s only the ones who drink it raw who are at risk. If so, have at it conservatives, drink all the bleach and raw milk you want
Depends on how the bird flu feels about that…
Like it’s only the ones who drink it raw who are at risk.
TB is contagious. So no.
Nope it’s the worst time in history to advise raw milk. Millions of wild life birds and livestock is dying around the world right now because of H5N1. Human cases (allegedly mild) are ramping up already although they don’t know/say if they are human to human transmissions. IIRC the CDC found viral material in raw milk and strongly advised to only drink pasteurized mild.
We should stop posting about Trump and his group of extraordinary morons.
The news cycle thrives on Trump, as every decision he makes manages to anger half the population, while the other half cheers him on simply to annoy liberals and progressives. This dynamic generates more clicks and ad revenue for news outlets, allowing Trump to continue making foolish decisions just to remain in the spotlight.
The only way to change this is to stop giving him space in the news.
Well, as long as only their terminally stupid follow these ideas, well, let them.
With any luck MAGAts will self-select in removing themselves like they did during COVID.
They are gonna make ignoring the government main stream.
That would be a noble endeavor.
Raw milk is totally safe…if the cow is totally healthy and if there aren’t pathogens floating around the cow.
I mean, my friend next door used to drink off the cows’s teats. His Mom would scold him for it, but he did it to show off. We used to milk their three “city cows”. Literally the cows would sleep in their garage and then walk to pasture on an every day basis. They would get milked every morning and we would walk to their house and buy a couple of liters from them. Sometimes cheese or bulgaros yogurt.
Everyone loved the cows. They smelled like cows but you could safely pet them and not expect feces on your hands.
The cows we get milk from are all rolling around in feces in confined space and they eat dry moldy feed. Like that stuff is total animal abuse and prone to end up giving someone a cow Bourne disease of some kind.
My neighbors also had pigs and we had pigs. That is why we never ate pig… cows are clean compared to pigs. Pigs will eat bugs smeared in pig feces. That is not normal really because pigs in the wild, although dirty, do not just swim in their feces like captive pigs do. If you ever want to go vegan for whatever reason, visit a captive pig farm. Learn that smell…then go to the butcher shop’s trash bin and learn that smell…then realize that when you get your meat in your fridge, the death smell is what you’re smelling. Makes me wanna puke 🤮 just thinking about it. And if your neighbors ever killed a pig, you would know it. Pigs don’t go down easy. That’s one positive thing I can definitely say about pigs. They know you’re gonna kill them and they scream like anyone would…as in a person. It churns you inside out hearing that scream and then when it stops you know it happened. Pigs don’t go down quietly.
Anyway don’t eat animals, but if you’re gonna eat milk or dairy, make sure it’s pasteurized! Any well understood retarded person like myself could agree 💯👍.
Mmmmm bacon…
Best copy pasta I’ve seen in a while
Thanks, I do my best with dairy.
Yeah the state of factory dairy’s… You want that shit pasteurized. Feces everywhere. Cows have all kinds of diseases. Filthy environment. It all gets killed or deactivated by pasturing.
So do you think Trump will improve or worsen animal-welfare protections in agriculture? Which policy will let bad actors make a quick buck at the expense of the rest of us?
I can’t imagine it’s going to be any better. I’m not sure I even find US/Can doing enough as is.
When we have a disease like bird flu roll through our herds, it seems like we just throw up our hands and say “oh well pasturing deactivates it”
But you still have a sick cow, even if they aren’t obviously symptomatic. They will produce less, treatments for other stuff will be less effective, they will be less healthy. And at the scale of most farms, all that has an effect. It just gradually makes things harder for farmers.
He signed a law against very specific animal torture of pets (don’t look it up) in his first term. He also signed a very specific law for increasing the speed of pig slaughter lines IIRC. So no. Livestock animals will be even more fucked (if that’s even possible in the US) as he is in the hands of big animal ag. He loves his farmers in Iowa as he said recently. Now is the best time to look up how to go vegan. Or the worst considering the drop in availability of alternative meat products that’s about to come. Remember if you don’t pay for it animal ag has to consider their practices. A big producer of meat products in Germany (Rügenwalder)has a lot of its productline switched to plant based in the last years because of the demand.
Same friend got in trouble for shooting milk from the cow onto incoming city traffic in front of his house. All this as pre-teen kids ofcourse. You wouldn’t find a self respecting adult…yes you probably would.
Long before there were factory dairies, there was already TB in milk.
Raw milk is totally safe…if the cow is totally healthy and if there aren’t pathogens floating around the cow.
Yeah, we’ll just make sure that the cows are healthy using the USDA’s regulatory capabilities. After Trump fires all of the career experts and replaces them with sycophants. What could go wrong.
Yup. Plus ebola is definitely not airborne if you walk slowly 6 feet behind everyone else.
In 2025, how many children will die from raw milk?
You certainly may drink raw milk if you like, but it may always come with a nasty risk. Plus it doesn’t keep as well, so if it isn’t stored perfectly, you might have a 12 dollar gallon of foul white liquid.
That doesn’t matter. What matters is that they get their way. We have to just sit on our hands and let them hurt enough people to make MAGAs switch allegiances. Or just let them keep killing people until there aren’t enough functional MAGAs left to make any meaningful opposition.
There is no point to argue with them. Just let them do it.
Let’s see here, RFK wants to ban vaccines and promote raw milk.
There is currently a bird flu epidemic in dairy cattle from bird droppings getting into the feed.
Consuming raw milk is one of the few ways humans can become infected with bird flu.
I’m sure this will be fine and the virus won’t mutate to allow for human to human transfer, it if it does luckily it only has a 56% mortality rate compared to the Covid morality rate of ~4% during its peak.RFK is secretly a flu virus wearing a human suit.
[preface and disclaimer: I’m remembering off the top of my head something I read over 30 years ago, details may not be exactly correct]
Not sure whether you remember the chapter of Sideways Stories from Wayside School, by Louis Sachar, in which there was a student who nobody liked, who was a real asshole and wore a stinky raincoat. The kids kept trying to take off his raincoat, but underneath was another, stinkier raincoat, just layers and layers of progressively stinky raincoats, and with every raincoat removed, the kid just became a bigger asshole and his laugh louder and more high-pitched.
At the very end, he turned out to be a dead rat in a pile of stinky raincoats.
That’s what the whole administration is shaping up to be. Except we knew this was coming and allowed it to happen, so I guess that, ultimately, we are the dead rat.
What a crazy story lol. I’ve never heard of that story until now.
The plot twist is that the worm in his brain didnt die, its pulling the strings to keep him going and further the global parasite agenda
On the plus side the high mortality rate should lower the spread.
True, but on the minus side, dumb people actively seeking out the infected milk would artificially increase the instances and thus the spread.
I don’t care. Do you?
They voted for this, they can deal with the consequences.
Normally I’d say that I don’t want this to happen to a bunch of people who don’t deserve it, but drinking raw milk is preventable and not contagious, and therefore entirely self-contained, right? So yeah, sow those seeds, guys, I’m totally owned.
True, but on the minus side, dumb people actively seeking out the infected milk would artificially increase the instances and thus the spread.
I’m sorry I only see benefits here.
That’s because you’re overlooking the fact that stupid people mingle with other people whether they want to or not.
If you don’t have at least a handful of truly idiotic coworkers and neighbors, you’re probably a self-employed hermit…
I have idiotic coworkers but I also work from home so my exposure in minimal.
You still interact with other people in person, and one or more of them interacts with the public.
If you learned nothing else from CoViD-19 I would hope you at least learned that you are only a couple degrees of separation from a hotbed of infection at most.
But on the plus side, dumb people actively infect themselves and get removed from the gene pool.
But on the minus side, other people don’t have the choice to completely avoid those dumb people and thus minimize their risk of infection.
If they did, covid wouldn’t have been a tenth as bad as it was/is.
You might misunderstand. The bird droppings did not accidentally get into the cow feed. Humans put it there intentionally to save money. Just search for “poultry litter” or “broiler litter” and “cattle feed” if you don’t believe me. The people who came up with this idea are actually proud of it.
In the US, right now, the dairy farms where they let the cats drink raw milk saw half their cats die.
This is an actual thing.
Edit based on comments below: The context of this thread is concerning hi path AI. I should have been more clear. I am referring to dairy farms where the cows have hi path AI and the cats drink raw milk.
However it is impossible to tell if your raw milk is infected with hi path AI, so to the readers of this who are really in to drinking raw milk, I wish you luck.
You’re sort of right ( based on the article I think you read about) The cats drank bird flu contaminated raw milk which led to them dying. For that reason, raw milk is dangerous to humans because pasteurized milk would
n’t be as dangerous.have reduced the chances of the bird flu, and other illnesses, from people that drink it. https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/04/concerning-spread-of-bird-flu-from-cows-to-cats-suspected-in-texas/*Edited
I am more than a little confused.
According to your article
By March 20, over half of the farm’s 24 or so cats died from the flu.
That is pretty much exactly what I said
I learned about this at a CBRNE conference from people familiar with the situation.
Sure I’ll clarify. The implication from your statement is that raw milk can kill half of cats very frequently, which is seemingly untrue. What seems to be the situation is that raw milk from cows infected with the bird flu can lead to a 50% fatality rate for cats that drink it. So if cats consume raw milk, will there be a near 50% fatality rate? Not necessarily, but it seems like that would be the case if the cows in question are infected with the bird flu (based on articles).
The reason why I want to differentiate between what you said, and the article is I can imagine someone saying: “nearly half of cats die drinking raw milk!” to which a skeptic may find online people talking about cats not dying at such a high rate from drinking raw milk, leaving out the fact that the bird flu infected cows is the issue. This can dissuade skeptics from believing the reality that raw milk increases the chances of illness from the bird flu, as well as other sicknesses.
If I’m wrong about the fact that nearly 50% of cats are dying, all the time, from raw milk, feel free to provide an article so i can educate myself.
Thanks. The context of this thread is concerning hi path AI. I should have been more clear. I am referring to dairy farms where the cows have hi path AI and the cats drink raw milk.
However it is impossible to tell if your raw milk is infected with hi path AI, so to the readers of this who are really in to drinking raw milk, I wish you luck.
Yeah, that’s exactly what you said. He also said raw milk is dangerous to humans because pasteurized milk is safer for humans (??). I think he’s drunk or just very dumb. Either way, just ignore him.
You’re right my original statement could have been worded better. I’ve edited it, and responded to the other user with some clarifications. https://sh.itjust.works/post/28117434/15082665
The fact that will even entertain this and other anti-scientific consensus bullshit in the conversation is the poison in the well.
I believe you can get brain worms from raw milk.
Today’s Republican Party didn’t get into their position of awesome power by listening to experts…
“I think, the people of this country have had of experts” - Michael Gove, (during UK brexit campaign)
