• dank@lemmy.today
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    20 days ago

    Did you read the article? And if so, was it before or after constructing your straw man?

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      20 days ago

      Not the OP, but I started reading it, and the first sentence is starting the bullshit already.

      Conservatives backed Trump by bigger percentages than in 2020.

      There were 1 million more votes for Trump than in 2020, while there were 14 million fewer votes for Harris compared to Biden. So while it’s technically true it’s ignoring the damned elephant in the room. 13 million people didn’t sit out this election or switch sides because of Liz Cheney.

      If the very first sentence is already this disingenuous, the rest of the article isn’t even worth wasting my time.

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        19 days ago

        Your numbers are a bit off, counting votes is still happening. We are currently at 97%. Trump is up about 1.6 million more votes than 2020 and Harris is down about 8.4 million votes from Biden 2020.

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        19 days ago

        Claiming Liz Cheney is responsible for 13 million people not voting is the bullshit.

        2020 had the highest voter turnout ever because of the pandemic.

        Billionaires were doing things like buying votes to avoid being taxed by Kamala.

        Republicans convinced many Americans that Biden and his “radical left wing” policies were responsible for inflation.

        Enemy nations like China and Russia favored Trump and used their bot farms accordingly.

        No one I know that voted irl ever even cared about Liz Cheney.

        The idea that Liz Cheney could sway 13 million votes is ridiculous.

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        19 days ago

        The followup is that sitting with Cheney wasted time that could have been spent reaching those 14M instead of wasting it on people who were never going to vote Harris.

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          19 days ago

          14 million isn’t something Harris could do on her own. They left because the Dem establishment gave no reason to show they cared about people. While the Republican were saying “it’s hard, we’ll fix it” the Dems kept insisting “it’s actually not that bad”.

          Obviously the Reps “fix” will be worse, but the Dems just stuck their head in the sand and ignored everything the average American needs to get by on a daily basis. It’s why 14 million voters abandoned them. 1 million went to Trump, the other 13 million gave up.

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            19 days ago

            They left because the Dem establishment gave no reason to show they cared about people

            Maybe not hanging around with Liz Cheney would be a start on that.