Harris only received five percent of Republican votes — less than the six percent Joe Biden won in 2020 when he beat Trump, as well as the seven percent won by Hillary Clinton in 2016 when she lost to him. While Harris won independents and moderates, she did so by smaller margins than Biden did in 2020.
Meanwhile, Harris lost households earning under $100,000, while Democratic turnout collapsed. Votes are still being counted, but Harris is on pace to underperform Biden’s 2020 totals by millions of votes.
you owe them everything? You owe them a vote bro. It’s not that deep.
If I owe them a vote, they owe me some policies.
yeah, and those polices weren’t global tariffs, deleting the DOE, and fucking over most of the federal government.
That sounds like they were offering the status quo. I.e nothing as nothing would change.
I am dissatisfied with that deal.
Sorry dems, but you only get nothing for nothing.
and you prefer a second trump deal?
Like you can pretend like you aren’t satisfied here, but you’re being presented with a would you rather of, would you rather cut your arm a little bit, or stick a needle into your eye. And you sit there and go “yeah no i dont think i want any of these options” except you forgot to read the fine print where the second option is the default result.
I’m dissatisfied with either. One actively repels me but the other isn’t appealing either.
Neither is th default here because neither is the incumbent, though Kamala is closer.
So if neither is asking for my vote or bringing anything i want, why would I show up?
Blame me if you like, but the truth is they failed because they were not appealing enough. And that’s simply all there is to it.
because if you dont vote, you are actively pushing for the party that “repels” you, to be in power.
The truth is that they failed sure, but then the truth is ALSO that you failed as well. You cannot simply ascribe all the blame to one party, especially in an environment as dynamic as today.
If you don’t understand the philosophical implications here, or just philosophy more broadly, go play the trolley game, and come back to me.
That is not true. I’m not voting for someone who doesn’t appeal me and Neither Trump nor kamala did.
Now when Trump was president he made some awful decisions… Kamala and Biden also have.
And, in case you haven’t noticed things aren’t particularly great right now. Something that the dems have had plenty of time to fix, or work to find some kind of solution.
For all their harping on about how important it is to stop Trump they sure never acted as though he was a credible threat, never put contingencies in place and never planned ahead for stopping it.
In short, no matter which way you think of it. They didn’t earn my vote