The democrats haven’t held a legitimate primary since 2008!
In 2008 it was a genuine competition between Obama, Hillary, and a handful of other lesser known politicians. Obama won the general in a landslide.
In 2012 Obama ran unopposed. Obama won the general.
In 2016 the democrats rigged the primary against sanders for Hillary, and to absolutely no one’s surprise who was paying attention, Hillary lost the general. Why? she didn’t genuinely win the primary. Shocking!
In 2020, refusing to learn mistakes from 2016, the democrats once again screwed over bernie and didn’t run a legitimate primary - rigged it so that all the candidates except no-path-to-win Warren exited the race to split the progressive vote away from bernie. Joe biden won by the skin of his teeth, and he would of lost if it weren’t for the country reacting to trumps handling of covid.
In 2024, once again refusing to learn the democrats didn’t even bother with a primary, ran an old demented geezer as a presidential candidate, realized that wasn’t going to work, and then anointed unelected Kamala Harris who didn’t even need to compete in a primary.
And they’re shocked they lost?! These people make way too much money to be this stupid.
The electorate swung solidly right, giving Trump the popular vote. Much as I’d like a more left-wing administration in the US, the evidence does not support the theory that a left leaning campaign would have helped. The US apparently wants an authoritarian government, and it got it.
This is not just the US either - globally we are shifting rapidly to authoritarian regimes. In my own UK where the center left (at best) Labour won the election, but only because the right wing parties were split by FPTP. The Tories elected a far right leader last week and got derided for it, but for them, it’s absolutely the right move, and the next election will likely deliver a far right Tory or Tory/Reform coalition. For reference, Labour got less votes than the previous election that they lost in a land slide.
Same where I currently live, Germany, and my fiancé’s France.
Dark times are ahead. Prepare for the worst.
I don’t know if sentiment swung or if Dems just didn’t show up.
Biden had over 80 million votes in '20. Trump had like 74. Trump got less total votes this year than in '20. Only problem was like 15 million Dems didn’t show up.
If there is one thing you can count on from a Democrat “voter”, it’s for them to not actually vote.
That’s bullshit. Obama won in 2008 with record turnout. Take the loss and learn from it instead of blaming voters for refusing to vote for a candidate who didn’t earn it.
I’m not saying that she desereved the votes.
The comment I was responding to said the electorate swung right. I’m saying that’s not what the numbers say.
The numbers say that the Dems didn’t show up to the polls. It’s absolutely the fault of the democratic party leadership: if you can’t convince people to show up, your offering is insufficient.
So, I actually agree with you, and the point I was making was at a seperate point somebody else made.
I know you’re hurting today but get ahold of yourself. Read and think before you rage at strangers on the internet.
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If there hasn’t been a worldwide turn to fascism then where the fuck is everyone? This isn’t just an American phenomenon.
If you have an concrete alternative interpretation I’m all ears. Are numerically fewer votes for Trump in 2024 an indication of growing support, and if so, how do you figure that?
Again, we’re aligned, but you’re lashing out at me out of frustration and anger and I expect you to be better.
If you want to engage in an adult discussion we can do that. I’m empathetic to your pain right now, but take a deep breath before you respond consider carefully if you’re in a place to do so as your best self. Doesn’t have to be today if you’re not. Hit me up in a week. A month. A year. I’m here whenever you want a sober sounding board.
Tone policing a genocide and the anger in the democrats once again selling us out to fascism rather than embrace anything remotely progressive. So liberal.
The coin toss during the caucus for starters. I’m home now, I’ll edit my comment in a bit. I worked for his campaign. It was beyond obvious that they were heavily weighing the scale against him.
I am on your side, and you are being vicious.
Asking you to treat me with respect isn’t tone policing, it’s basic human decency, and I believe you understand that.
Trump got about a million less votes than 4 years ago. Harris got about 15 million less. So the population didn’t swing right 15 million Biden voters said fuck it and stayed home.
Everyone said this was going to be a close race. So we can’t even use the Clinton excuse that nobody thought Trump would win.
She was a bad candidate with no message beyond Trump bad. That was enough for me but not 15 million other people.
We are going through the worldwide death throes of neoliberalism.
I don’t agree with Zizek on everything, but in his ‘debate’ with that lobster Kermit guy he said something to the effect of ‘China is a tragedy because it is a model for the future of governance.’
Zizek is the only person who can contradict his argument twice in one sentence and still retain credibility. It’s an art