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              27 days ago

              No he really is. What is more status quo than a rich white guy as president with conservative values?

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                Trump is campaigning on making massive changes to American domestic and foreign policy. I don’t like the changes he’s pursuing, but he is absolutely not running on the status quo. And that is, in fact, exactly what won him the race.

                If he was just running on the status quo, he wouldn’t be a threat to democracy. Deporting 20 million people isn’t the status quo. Repealing civil rights isn’t status quo. Attacking or ending NATO isn’t status quo. Abandoning Ukraine isn’t status quo. Befriending Russia isn’t status quo.

                Yes, Trump is a conservative white guy. But type of thinking, focusing on identity groups and demographics, is what has got us here. Kamala herself is a historically novel nominee, she was new in terms of personal identity. But she wasn’t actually offering anything other than the same milquetoast centrism of Biden.

                This is the problem. People are hurting. Trump actually had something to offer these people. He said, “elect me, I’ll throw out all the immigrants, and by doing so I’ll lower the cost of housing and increase wages!” It’s a horrible, evil, and long-term unproductive solution, but he was actually offering SOMETHING. Democrats offered no meaningful answers to the things people are actually hurting on. The only thing Democrats offered were wonky dismissals of economic concerns by citing official inflation numbers and calculated real wage gains. (Ignoring figures like ratio of median housing cost to median wage.)

                People are in pain right now. People are on the edge, driven to the brink by late-stage capitalism. Biden was a milquetoast centrist, but he was able to barely eek out a win by running on a lot of progressive promises in 2020. He walked away from a lot of those commitments and governed as the centrist he is. Harris offered just more of the same. Neither offered real meaningful solutions and proved completely incapable of handling the crises at hand.

                Trump again, he actually offered solutions, or at least something that seems like a solution. Like it or not, he WAS the change candidate of 2020. And that is what won him the election.

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                    And their centrist wing managed to completely kneecap it. The same centrist wing that ran Kamala’s campaign.

                    How has US fossil fuel production been cut back AT ALL from any Biden or Harris policy?

                    Yes, I know you can blame it on Manchin. The problem is that there’s always a Manchin. The Democrats take turns being the sacrificial lamb, and they can always find some conservative Dem to kneecap any serious Democratic proposal.

                    Voters don’t give two shits about what your party introduces. Parties introduce all sorts of policies they have zero intention of passing for easy political points all the time.

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                27 days ago

                That is NOT the status quo. You’re talking about someone promising to make utterly massive changes to US foreign and domestic policy. People are hurting for change, and if they can’t find that change on the left, they’ll find it on the right.

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                  it’s “status quo” back then not modern version. He said 1950s is when america was great in 2016. So dismantling everything in last 70 years is just going back to roots to him I imagine.

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        I suspected if she lost it was because she was a woman. Others are saying it was all Gaza and they didn’t vote in protest. A commentor replied to me showing the margins are like 10s of thousands in one state.

        She seem way better than Hillary too. Hillary reminded me of my grandma but in all the bad ways.

        Guess Trump may nuke the whales. Tried to nuke a hurricane.

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          Anyone who didn’t vote in protest needs to shut the fuck up now. I don’t wanna hear another damn word out of them regarding Gaza, or moralizing to the world. They will now get to see Gaza be dismantled.

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            They really stuck it to the Democratic party, hope they’re fucking happy that their solution to the Gaza situation is to accelerate wiping Palestinians from existence. Blood is on their hands now more than anyone that did the bare minimum to keep democracy alive.

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              Nobody learned the lesson from 2016. We can’t stick it to the dems until the GOP goes away.

              I bet the dems are high fiving each other right now from all the donations they are going to get.

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                  Well i bet a bunch of people will say it never existed so what do I know. Maybe it’s all a illuminati scram.

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                    If you don’t keep up-to-date with what’s going on, and don’t exercise your vote, then everything around you is pretty much an ‘Illuminati scam.’

                    Welcome to the easiest way to scam people. XD

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                We can’t change how people work, adopting republican policies and compromising your democratic policies decreases turnout with the base.

                We can only tell the democratic politicians to do what they need to do to win, which isn’t triangulating yourself 2 inches to the left of the republican to try to chase “moderate republicans” who prefer diet fascism to the real thing.

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      They just slept

      Look at this snoozer. Absolutely sleepymaxxing. A bedtimepilled pillowcel. Got a blanket under his head just lost in the sleepy sauce.

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      The Democrat vote is ALWAYS 15 million below Biden’s RECORD popular vote number! Trump got HUGE numbers for a Republican. Do your homework, and stop trying to create a narrative using COVID numbers.

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        You realize the US population gets bigger over time, right? There should always been more voters every year because we have more people every year.

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        The narrative that people voted In the 2020 and chose not too in 2024? Doesn’t matter what dem numbers were in the past cause all it proves is how many people will consistently vote dem.

        I’ll tell you what the shock really is me. People voted for Biden not because they hated Trump but something Biden had that dem candidates going back to 2008 didn’t have.