Petition Summary: The petitioner calls for the European Union to actively develop and implement a Linux-based operating system, termed ‘EU-Linux’, across public administrations in all EU Member States. This initiative aims to reduce dependency on Microsoft products, ensuring compliance with the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), and promoting transparency, sustainability, and digital sovereignty within the EU. The petitioner emphasizes the importance of using open-source alternatives to Microsoft 365, such as LibreOffice and Nextcloud, and suggests the adoption of the E/OS mobile operating system for government devices. The petitioner also highlights the potential for job creation in the IT sector through this initiative.

  • repungnant_canary@lemmy.world
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    15 days ago

    To register on that website I need to agree to Privacy Policy:

    Please be aware that registered petitions are public documents. This means that your identity, the number given to the petition and the personal data contained therein: (1) may be disclosed to the recipients mentioned in the paragraph above; (2) may be mentioned in public meetings held by the Committee on Petitions, and thus webstreamed (which means that they may be watched by anyone through the European Parliament website); (3) may be mentioned in the plenary session, and thus be recorded in the minutes published in the Official journal; (4) may be made available on the internet website of the European Parliament.

    Do I understand it incorrectly or does it allow them to webstream my home address???

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    15 days ago

    While I like the idea, it’ll be incredibly tough to overcome Microsofts lobbying, one just needs to look on the history of the LiMux project.

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    16 days ago

    I’ve said this a million times, but it’s definitely about time we stop spending taxes on a rogue entity across the ocean who definitely does not have our best interests in mind. I’m not convinced it’s even legal and I don’t understand why the legal prospects have never been brought up about this fucking situation. R&D money should not go to a foreign corporation. In addition, I (and pretty much everyone else on the planet) already paid for microsofts products and services so my government can use it (against my will), so why the fuck do they get away with setting a public price at all? It should legally be free or the governments shouldn’t need to pay for it in the first place, and it should legally be open source because it’s publicly funded. There are just so many problems with the entire idea of our government using Windows, Office, and their services.

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    PSA: You can sign the petition even if you’re not a European national. I registered and signed as a Canadian myself and it accepted it

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    Especially in light of Microsoft CoPilot. You do not want obvious spyware on any computer.

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      Don’t forget Recall, aka literal spyware, taking screenshots of your device regardless of whether you’re entering passwords, making private searches, using TOR, opening sensitive documents, looking at private pictures. It’s all exposed.

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    Just use Debian, it has old root, stable, still being developed, it’s the base of various others distro that “enhance” it (sometimes badly).

    Debian.

    I’m using MX Linus AHS, based on Debian, BTW.

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    Ain’t no way that’s getting accepted. It’s like asking to completely destroy and rebuild one of the EU countries.

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      They’re already putting out a petition so they’re not wholly against the idea of an EU-Linux.

      Also, this has been done before by other governments, like parts of the UK’s and many Indian governments.

      I think it’d be a big step, but a doable one and for the better.

      Why do you compare it to destroying and rebuilding one of the EU countries, if I may ask?

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        Why do you compare it to destroying and rebuilding one of the EU countries, if I may ask?

        Because destroying and rebuilding the digital infrastructure is very similar. It’s extremely expensive and causes a lot of breakages in the process.

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          most software is web based and OS-agnostic so there is no destruction and rebuilding happening, and for everything else, FOSS is literally free. How is it expensive to switch from X with a monthly cost to X that is free? Even if things breaks initially, the cost would equalize and long-term be considerably reduced.

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            most software is web based and OS-agnostic so there is no destruction and rebuilding happening

            I don’t think EU backend and government job software is OS-agnostic.

            and for everything else, FOSS is literally free

            Yes but they need to switch and develop new utilities which is time and money.

            Even if things breaks initially, the cost would equalize and long-term be considerably reduced.

            That might be true depending on the maintenance costs of the new solutions.

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    As long as the EU doesn’t reinvent the wheel, why not? I mean if they are going to fork Linux and rewrite a EU-based linux OS, this would further divide the community and make issues and security a lot more wacky… Not sure this is a good idea.

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      Pretty sure they’re talking about making a distro, not forking the Linux kernel. I don’t see any reason why they would need to fork it anyway.

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    Someone mentioned that M365 is properly not legal. Guess what, it isn’t.

    The EDPS (European Data Protection Supervisor) investgated the EU-Commissions’ use of M365 and found it to be illegal in march 2024. EPDS gave the Commission until December 2024 to, among other things, stop transfers of Personal Information to third countries in M365 outside the EU. Which of course made the Commission sue the EDPS. And MS to do the same…

    So M365 is NOT legal to use for any Public Institution in the EU. Unless the Controller make Microsoft change their DPA, contract etc. Kinda like MS did for the Dutch government after the dutch firm Privacy Company made an in depth analysis of M365 and found numerous illegal processing etc.

    Fun how Microsoft was made aware of how they acted illegal, and changed it - only for the Dutch Government…!! The rest of their Customers still have the illegal DPA, terms etc… Also fun how it is Common knowledge and IT-departments still choose to use M365, and move as much as possible there from more privacy and security oriented services.

    EDPS investigation into the Commissions use of M365: https://www.edps.europa.eu/press-publications/press-news/press-releases/2024/european-commissions-use-microsoft-365-infringes-data-protection-law-eu-institutions-and-bodies_en

    My point? EU-Linux is a fantastic idea! 🙂

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    If only the GAFAMS could stop getting money from taxpayers! It would be a big start and then it would just be the individuals who would decide to support by buying their products or not.

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      You’re forgetting corporations. That’s where big money is at. Business and Government. If we can take away the Government, that would be nice.

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    I imagine this would work out to be something similar to redhat enterprise linux, but with the EU funding it’s development instead of the US