• deviants@slrpnk.net
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    2 months ago

    You just described a genocide, like one of the plain text definitions of a genocide. Mass murdering a group of people to steal their land.

    Doesn’t matter that you’ve made up a hypothetical fantasy scenario where they aren’t caged in cornered, but have free movement, it’s still a genocide.

    Oh, and they aren’t free to leave, they are caged and cornered.

    So you’re wrong, and you’re wrong again.

    • Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world
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      25 days ago

      The Palestinians are not an ethnic group. They are people who live in Palestine, and are from many ethnicities and religious professions. They are being murdered because of where they live, not technically because of their ethnicity. If they all left of their own accord, Israel would not pursue them to murder them. Israel is murdering them to steal their land. Hence not genocide.

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        22 days ago

        Did you really just say that if the indigenous inhabitants simply left their homes and wandered into the desert, then Israel wouldn’t be forced to commit a genocide?

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          21 days ago

          What the fuck are you talking about? Where did I even touch on “Forced to commit genocide”? So shut the fuck up. The Israeli’s are choosing to do this. The Israeli intent is to chase non-Jews out of the land they want to steal. Israel is committing a different crime against humanity other than genocide. The Israelis are choosing to commit ethnic cleansing. The ethnicity of the people in Gaza who aren’t Jewish doesn’t matter to the Israelis. They just want them gone, chased out or murdered, no matter what their ethnicity or faith if they aren’t Jewish. It doesn’t make any difference to Bibi. And as long as that’s what Israel is doing, those who supply the means to Israel need to stop providing those means.

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      2 months ago

      By what definition

      Wiki

      Genocide is violence that targets individuals because of their membership of a group and aims at the destruction of a people.[a][2]

      Dictionary

      the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.

      Cambridge dictionary

      genocide noun [ C or U ] UK /ˈdʒen.ə.saɪd/ US /ˈdʒen.ə.saɪd/ Add to word list the crime of intentionally destroying part or all of a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group, by killing people or by other methods:

      So by what definition do you add ‘land’.

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        21 days ago

        By what rationale do you group people who live in Palestine together as a particular group- because they aren’t. Israel wants Gaza, and they want everyone there who’s not an Israeli gone. Either chased out or murdered. It’s not like the extermination of certain Native peoples carried out by the US government in the 1800’s where they were obliterated for what they were.