• GiveMemes@jlai.lu
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    28 days ago

    Not in the US military, and I’m sure others as well. What civilized nations are you referring to? I can only speak to the US, but enlisted soldiers here take a pledge to follow orders, while the officers are actually the ones to take a pledge to uphold the US constitution.

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      28 days ago

      Not in the US military

      Yes, in the US military.

      I can only speak to the US, but enlisted soldiers here take a pledge to follow orders,

      To follow orders in accordance with the UCMJ.

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      28 days ago

      US soldiers are not pledging to defend the constitution?!

      In Germany for instance every soldiers pledges on the constitution. I thought this was the normal way for countries with a democratic constitution.

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        27 days ago

        No, they absolutely do pledge and affirm that. Not sure what that person is talking about. It’s definitely, at least on paper, expected for individuals in the military to refuse to follow unlawful orders. What happens in practice is another story. See: entire history of US military action.