Vice President Kamala Harris's post-debate campaign visits to North Carolina and Pennsylvania to start of a "more aggressive" campaigning stage, her campaign said.
yeah, that’s just politics, idk what you really expect it to do lol.
Right? I guess I’m just a cynical old anarcho-commie but American politics has always felt like one step forward and two steps back.
What’s different this time is how many “moderate” Republicans are endorsing the Democrats.
they are moderate btw. That the reason they’re supporting dems.
They were never moderate, that’s why they were Republicans in the first place. The only reason they’re supporting Dems now is because the Dems have stopped pretending to be left-wing and openly embraced their status as America’s non-wingnut Capitalist party.
i don’t think the democratic party is over, i think you’re just either being wildly over dramatic here, or simply wrong about how the democratic party works.
Dramatic, sure, but I don’t think it’s overly so. The party no longer needs to appeal to the interests of us small folks now that business interests are starting to abandon the Republican project. Working within the system to enact meaningful change was already nigh-impossible, but now that the Democrats have an unassailable electoral position there’s no reason for them not to become complacent and allow themselves to be influenced by lobbyists even more than before.
I feel like bernie probably just wasn’t popular enough to win, certainly a beloved candidate, but idk if people would’ve genuinely voted him in. Maybe if he was the primary candidate, but they obviously didn’t pick him, to whatever consequence that had.
If the Democrats had put their weight behind Bernie then 2016 wouldn’t even have been a contest. He was literally the single most popular politician in America at the time and Clinton was close to the opposite, but the DNC decided it was “Her Turn” and arranged the rest of the competition to drop out and endorse Clinton ahead of the Super Tuesday primaries. Between that and the superdelegates there was no way for the best candidate to win.
They also promoted Trump under the assumption that he’d be an easy opponent for her. XD
Right? I guess I’m just a cynical old anarcho-commie but American politics has always felt like one step forward and two steps back.
i think it’s probably more like 1.1 steps forward, and 1 steps back, slow continual progress seems to be the ultimate goal of the governmental structure.
They were never moderate, that’s why they were Republicans in the first place. The only reason they’re supporting Dems now is because the Dems have stopped pretending to be left-wing and openly embraced their status as America’s non-wingnut Capitalist party.
well yeah, traditionally they would be moderate/institutional republicans but history is not accurate when applied to the modern day, so right now, a modern republican is going to appreciate kamala more than trump right now.
the left historically has been broadly moderate, a somewhat significant voter populous will swing more progressive, but it’s a lot less “aggressive” than on the republican side. I think the turnout at kamala rallies has been a really good example of this. I think most democrats are “socially progressive” governmentally “liberal” and economically “liberal/progressive” but that’s just what i’ve gleaned. Very few democrats are “socialist” or “communist” and even fewer subscribe to anarchism. Even i a technically anarchist individual, doesn’t even “believe” in anarchism. I think anarchism is a transitional government structure. I think it’s a more of a communal structure more than anything, and that’s where i find value in it.
Dramatic, sure, but I don’t think it’s overly so. The party no longer needs to appeal to the interests of us small folks now that business interests are starting to abandon the Republican project. Working within the system to enact meaningful change was already nigh-impossible, but now that the Democrats have an unassailable electoral position there’s no reason for them not to become complacent and allow themselves to be influenced by lobbyists even more than before.
you might be correct, but that would be a very long term game, 10-20 years. So it’s hard to say right now, but you might very well be correct on that one. I think this is mostly a response to the republican base, and i think we’re going to see a “new left” in the coming election cycles, hinging on more traditional values, but pushing for more progressive things. I think if we see this, the democratic party is going to be highly successful.
If the Democrats had put their weight behind Bernie then 2016 wouldn’t even have been a contest. He was literally the single most popular politician in America at the time and Clinton was close to the opposite, but the DNC decided it was “Her Turn” and arranged the rest of the competition to drop out and endorse Clinton ahead of the Super Tuesday primaries. Between that and the superdelegates there was no way for the best candidate to win.
idk much about the 2016 election and popular opinion so i can’t say much about that, but in 2020 if that were to have happened, i think that probably would’ve happened as well. The party institution has a very large voting influence, whoever is run as the primary, is going to get the majority of part votes, unfortunately.
I think the primary issue with the 2016 election was the common public sentiment of trump, he was the under dog, i guess nobody though people voted for republicans or something lol. Thankfully i think this was the “old left” and i’m hoping we get a “new left” starting with the current harris ticket. I think if we do have a new left, we will be very productive.
They also promoted Trump under the assumption that he’d be an easy opponent for her. XD
you might be correct, but that would be a very long term game, 10-20 years.
Yeah, well, my weirdness continues. I’ve got that ADHD time-blindness pretty damn hard, so future events which are inevitable might as well have already occurred in my perspective.
i think we’re going to see a “new left” in the coming election cycles
That’s my prediction as well. Now that the Democrats are the new right-wing, the obvious competition would be a new left-wing party. It probably won’t be one of the existing “left” parties though, as they are almost all thoroughly captured by either foreign interests, state security agencies, or both.
Yeah, well, my weirdness continues. I’ve got that ADHD time-blindness pretty damn hard, so future events which are inevitable might as well have already occurred in my perspective.
gotta love time travel, i mea-
That’s my prediction as well. Now that the Democrats are the new right-wing, the obvious competition would be a new left-wing party. It probably won’t be one of the existing “left” parties though, as they are almost all thoroughly captured by either foreign interests, state security agencies, or both.
idk that they’re the “new right” like i said i expect them to use moderate language, but then push for more progressive policy. It seems like a really successful strategy. Shit like “we don’t want the government involved in peoples healthcare” implies to me that it will be across the board, not only for abortion, but also shit like gender affirming healthcare. And that we will probably see similar things in schools as well.
Though im pretty sure the “far left” will probably splinter a bit more aggressively over this, i’m not sure how much that will do anything, or even matter, we’ll have to see.
it’s also possible that if/once trumps dies/drops out, that the republican party has to scramble to be normal again, and they either pick up a new normal (probably more moderate, otherwise they probably won’t win) pushing the dems further to the left, though im hoping some of that newer rhetoric stays put, just more progressive in general.
Right? I guess I’m just a cynical old anarcho-commie but American politics has always felt like one step forward and two steps back.
They were never moderate, that’s why they were Republicans in the first place. The only reason they’re supporting Dems now is because the Dems have stopped pretending to be left-wing and openly embraced their status as America’s non-wingnut Capitalist party.
Dramatic, sure, but I don’t think it’s overly so. The party no longer needs to appeal to the interests of us small folks now that business interests are starting to abandon the Republican project. Working within the system to enact meaningful change was already nigh-impossible, but now that the Democrats have an unassailable electoral position there’s no reason for them not to become complacent and allow themselves to be influenced by lobbyists even more than before.
If the Democrats had put their weight behind Bernie then 2016 wouldn’t even have been a contest. He was literally the single most popular politician in America at the time and Clinton was close to the opposite, but the DNC decided it was “Her Turn” and arranged the rest of the competition to drop out and endorse Clinton ahead of the Super Tuesday primaries. Between that and the superdelegates there was no way for the best candidate to win.
They also promoted Trump under the assumption that he’d be an easy opponent for her. XD
i think it’s probably more like 1.1 steps forward, and 1 steps back, slow continual progress seems to be the ultimate goal of the governmental structure.
well yeah, traditionally they would be moderate/institutional republicans but history is not accurate when applied to the modern day, so right now, a modern republican is going to appreciate kamala more than trump right now.
the left historically has been broadly moderate, a somewhat significant voter populous will swing more progressive, but it’s a lot less “aggressive” than on the republican side. I think the turnout at kamala rallies has been a really good example of this. I think most democrats are “socially progressive” governmentally “liberal” and economically “liberal/progressive” but that’s just what i’ve gleaned. Very few democrats are “socialist” or “communist” and even fewer subscribe to anarchism. Even i a technically anarchist individual, doesn’t even “believe” in anarchism. I think anarchism is a transitional government structure. I think it’s a more of a communal structure more than anything, and that’s where i find value in it.
you might be correct, but that would be a very long term game, 10-20 years. So it’s hard to say right now, but you might very well be correct on that one. I think this is mostly a response to the republican base, and i think we’re going to see a “new left” in the coming election cycles, hinging on more traditional values, but pushing for more progressive things. I think if we see this, the democratic party is going to be highly successful.
idk much about the 2016 election and popular opinion so i can’t say much about that, but in 2020 if that were to have happened, i think that probably would’ve happened as well. The party institution has a very large voting influence, whoever is run as the primary, is going to get the majority of part votes, unfortunately.
I think the primary issue with the 2016 election was the common public sentiment of trump, he was the under dog, i guess nobody though people voted for republicans or something lol. Thankfully i think this was the “old left” and i’m hoping we get a “new left” starting with the current harris ticket. I think if we do have a new left, we will be very productive.
skill issue no. 1 pretty much lmao.
Yeah, well, my weirdness continues. I’ve got that ADHD time-blindness pretty damn hard, so future events which are inevitable might as well have already occurred in my perspective.
That’s my prediction as well. Now that the Democrats are the new right-wing, the obvious competition would be a new left-wing party. It probably won’t be one of the existing “left” parties though, as they are almost all thoroughly captured by either foreign interests, state security agencies, or both.
gotta love time travel, i mea-
idk that they’re the “new right” like i said i expect them to use moderate language, but then push for more progressive policy. It seems like a really successful strategy. Shit like “we don’t want the government involved in peoples healthcare” implies to me that it will be across the board, not only for abortion, but also shit like gender affirming healthcare. And that we will probably see similar things in schools as well.
Though im pretty sure the “far left” will probably splinter a bit more aggressively over this, i’m not sure how much that will do anything, or even matter, we’ll have to see.
it’s also possible that if/once trumps dies/drops out, that the republican party has to scramble to be normal again, and they either pick up a new normal (probably more moderate, otherwise they probably won’t win) pushing the dems further to the left, though im hoping some of that newer rhetoric stays put, just more progressive in general.
It’ll be interesting to watch.