MADISON, Wis. – Four independent presidential candidates have filed signatures and paperwork to appear on the November ballot, the Wisconsin Elections Commission announced Tuesday.

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        Well you can vote for partial genocide based on really outdated foriegn policy or you can vote for complete genocide that includes all marginalized and minority people inside the US. Take your pick, we have to fix FPTP later, not right fucking now.

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          I’m voting for Harris because less suffering is good.

          But your comment was off base. WI does have a lot of leftists sick of genocide and that’s why so many are on the ticket.

          If Dems don’t want the vote diluted, they need to come out against the genocide. Not shame people for having a conscience and not stepping in line, like Kamala recently did at a rally .

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            She did address it again at the next rally, to be fair to her. Though I agree the first reaction was… let’s call it sub-optimal.

            Still, she is in an incredibly tough position here. Not only does she carry the regular US baggage of Israel relation and wanting the strategic position in the middle east - she’s also an active member of the current administration. There is a pretty hard limit on how much she can speak out given Biden is still in office, and ceasefire talks are ongoing.

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              I hear you. But proclaiming that third party candidates are intentionally trying to dilute the vote, as the commmentor I replied to implied, is no different than Harris’s response at the rally.

              It’s meant to shame third parties for not getting in line behind the Democratic candidate. Instead of listening to people’s grievances, they both weaponize shame.

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                It’s hard to feel otherwise when operating under a FPTP system, which is basically intentionally built to shut out third parties. In fact, one of the prominent benefits of FPTP is that it’s incredibly difficult for an extremist party to find foothold - as opposed to what is seen all over Europe currently in places with party-list proportional representation.

                Whether the third party candidates are naive about their chances, putting themselves out there as an act of protest or intentionally diluting the vote is impossible to say (and I suspect there are some out there in each category).

                In the end however intentions don’t really matter - the practical impact of third parties in an FPTP system is diluting the vote.

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      Or you know, people should just vote for who they want to vote for because the candidate lines up with their values. Even if YOU don’t like their candidate.

      You know, kinda like how a democracy should work!

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          If we were to read the room, it reads like a fucking echo chamber. If Democrats want to earn votes, they need to start earning them. Otherwise we need to dilute the entire electoral process and maybe get some real progressive into office. For decades, we hear populist rhetoric around election time. And then they promptly drop the entire subject after the election. The DNC cannot be trusted, and they will betray us.

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          You are having several comments removed because you are being uncivil.

          Stop being a bully, please. There are rules in this sub that you are breaking by speaking that way to me.

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          Then maybe you should block me or at least stop interacting with me if you are so frustrated by my posts?

          Disagreeing with me because I have a different opinion than you is fine, but remember the civility rule for this sub, please. Thank you.

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            No, I track the more dangerous accounts on purpose. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve blocked dozens of people but for you I get a notification. I don’t want to miss a single minute of your show.

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              So you’re stalking me. Ok, well let the Admins chime in. LIke I said in my other comments with you, I would love for them to chime in, and do it publicly in this thread!