-
Postal service plans to spend billions on EV chargers and roughly 66,000 new trucks Contract cancellation likely part of sweeping executive order on EVsTrump transition weighs plan to cancel USPS contracts to build large EV fleet
Dec 6 (Reuters) - Donald Trump’s transition team is considering canceling the U.S. Postal Service’s contracts to electrify its delivery fleet, as part of a broader suite of executive orders targeting electric vehicles, according to three sources familiar with the plans.
The move, which could be unveiled in the early days of Trump’s administration that begins on Jan. 20, is in line with Trump’s campaign promises to roll back President Joe Biden’s efforts to decarbonize U.S. transportation to fight climate change – an agenda Trump has said is unnecessary and potentially damaging to the economy.
Reuters has previously reported that Trump is planning to kill a $7,500 consumer tax credit for electric vehicle purchases, and plans to roll back Biden’s stricter fuel-efficiency standards.
The sources told Reuters that Trump’s transition team is now reviewing how it can unwind the postal service’s multibillion-dollar contracts, including with Oshkosh (OSK.N), and Ford (F.N) for tens of thousands of battery-driven delivery trucks and charging stations.
Oshkosh shares fell by roughly 5% to 105.65 per share after the Reuters report.
And his dipshit USPS head is still there waiting for his time to shine.
I’m surprised he isn’t just cancelling the usps. Not sure I would miss the junk mail. And maybe it would force the garbage company to start sending bills and things over email. You know, like the notice that our pick up was moving. That would have been nice. Or actually… anthems reason for denial of a perscription that they rufused to give me electronically or tell me. Just have to wait for the mail.
the last piece of mail donvict opened himself was probably an allowance check sent by daddy to him while he was busy at upenn being the big stupid on campus.
I remember reading Dante’s Inferno for the first time. I’m glad to be reminded of that.
More EVs means lower gas prices.
This drives up gas prices.
Killing the tax credit drives up gas prices.
It’s quite remarkable how economically m ignorant a large section of America is. Supply and demand is the easiest model to understand and yet these voters have been positioned to work against their own best interest at a basic economic level.
And this is only one a hundreds of examples. Fascinating time to be alive.
Better get my passive aggressive stickers ready
Passiveaggressive. FTFYOne of the main problems of the Dems is playing nice, and expecting rules to be followed.
It’s time to fight using their weapons.
I was just thinking the other day someone needs to cut out a picture of Trump pointing for this purpose. If he actually implements all the things he’s saying, there will be MANY opportunities to slap that on prices (even if it’s only in memes online).
I don’t understand why the left doesn’t take a page out of the rights playback in this regard. We’ve seen how effective things like this and memes are at changing people’s beliefs, yet nobody is willing to try it. They’d rather have some graduate-level economics professor try to explain how things work to a bunch of people with a 4th grade reading level in order to educate them, but this is an obviously flawed approach that doesn’t work.
I mean it doesn’t need to be a coordinated act from “the left”.
Go print some stupid Trump stickers that say “I did that” and go stick them on everything. When gas goes up, stick them on the pumps. When electronics go up. Stick them on the boxes at best buy.
The issue isn’t “the left” as some amorphous organization. It’s that most people who align more left aren’t that petty. The left is a much more disorganized, factions political position than the right. And that’s because the GOP has worked relentlessly to build a cohesive base.
Screw it, at least the prices will be high come next election (if we have one)
More EVs means lower gas prices.
This drives up gas prices.
I know, it’s almost as though the multinational oil corporations and their shareholders who backed all three of Trump’s campaigns want higher oil and gas prices for some reason… what could that be?
That part at least makes sense.
It’s all the voters with their massive gas guzzling vehicles that are voting against their best interest. Over and over again.
The fact is that you’re politically engaged and the average voter is not.
They’re not dumb or anything, but politics and economics are not things for which they look past their noses. Politics and economics are complex topics and that’s why Trump’s antics and tactics work so well. He stays in the headlines and gets people feeling like they’re part of a team. For a similar example, loads of folks don’t pay attention to NFL players, teams, and coaches during the off season… but once games start happening, allegiances are taken. Even if a neighboring or different franchise might have a better chance of winning (thus make you feel like a winner by proxy) you might still just cheer on the team that first caught your attention/is in your geographic area. People don’t want a sermon and they definitely don’t want to be scolded… they want to be on a winning team regardless of the consequences of that choice (leopards eating faces, etc, etc).
They could at least spend 10 minutes googling before heading off to stand in line for hours to vote for some dipshit who opposes everything they think they are voting for
As I said, they may only be voting for the “team” about which they got excited and not much else. There not dumb, the American political system has set about keeping voters as passive as is possible for the purposes of exploiting them. Trump is just the latest (and most naked) bit of exploitation.
No, thats fuckin’ dumb and people who voted for this are dumb.
I know it’s frustrating as hell, but lashing out at voters isn’t the answer. They’re not dumb, they’re just not engaged. The system of American politics keeps them disengaged on purpose.
“Not engaged” means “willfully ignorant”.
The presidential election season is like 18 months long. Information is ubiquitous. Plenty of time to find just one rabbit hole to stumble into and realize your guy is a conman and a crook.
In fact, I’d say it’s pretty much impossible that these people were “not engaged”. They chose to not engage. They had the same opportunity to educate themselves and they chose to tune it out. That’s what toddlers do. Stick fingers in their ears and proceed on with life. Only remove fingers from ear to lick wax. This is how the majority of Americans choose to live their life.
Maybe literacy tests wouldn’t be such a bad idea now that there is compulsory education .
Damn, literacy tests… now there’s a policy the Democrats haven’t championed since Jim Crow. I remember Rush Limbaugh going on a scree about us “needing” to bring back those in the 1990’s. Are there any other policies from one of the darkest periods of American history you would also like to go back to? Perhaps the reimplementation of poll taxes or just force marching some Native Americans into the desert?
Dumb take.
Everybody knows the real cause of high gas prices is Joe Biden. Haven’t you seen the stickers on the pumps? It says it right there…“I did that”, with a picture of Biden’s face.
That may be true, but I saw a hot chick and she turned out to have a dick. Fascism/Hate 2024
Don’t worry, Elon Musk has a much better idea for a postal vehicle. All he needs is 10 years and 1 trillion dollars and he’ll be ready with the prototype.
This is probably Trump’s way of telling Leon not to get out of line.
I’d love it if Trump fired Elon and Elon spent his billions fighting him.
I mean it’s possible.
Both Trump and Musk are the kind of rich assholes who are your “best friend” until they notice that a knife would fit very conveniently in your back. A pants shitting grifter and dot com bubble roulette winner, I can’t picture this odd couple having any love lost between them.
According to Epstein one of Trump’s favorite past-times was getting his best friends to sleep with prostitutes so he could tell their wives about it and get them to sleep with him in revenge.
But Christian and family values amirite?
And then the prototype will be just the regular robotaxi where he stuffed a bunch of letters on the passender seat. Car is meant go from house to house and then honk untill people come down and pick up their stuff from the seat. Unfortunately, the vehicle only works in movie studios with a pre-programmed route. Those of you not living in a movie studio will have to pick up their stuff at the next Tesla dealer for a small fee of $10.
Whatever oil wants, oil gets.
After paying Trump millions, yeah
“May.”
I kind of wish someone was keeping track of speculative “news articles” like this and holding them accountable when they don’t come to fruition. There should be some reputational cost for making things up and spreading rumors.
usps should go on strike if this happens
Not an option for most, I’d wager. Federal employees are free to unionize, however it is a felony crime for a federal employee to strike against the government. Furthermore, it’s a felony to even assert that this is right you have, or to join an organization which asserts that right. The government’s HR department, the Office of Personnel Management, is able to bar any person who violates these provisions from federal employment for life.
Laws more or less to this effect have been on the books since the 40s and 50s, but the issue came to a head in the early 80s when thousands of air traffic controllers went on strike against the FAA after contract negotiations fell through. Reagan ordered the controllers back to work, and, when they refused, summarily fired them. Where they couldn’t be replaced be scabs, he activated the military to fill in, citing national security. According to the last article I read, of the 13,000 striking employees, 11,000 were fired and barred from future employment (though I think Clinton rolled some of that back in the 90s).
Considering it’s clear that the GOP benefits from government dysfunction, and does everything they can to erode public faith in institutions, striking postal workers would be a gift served on a silver platter for them. Trump will giddily fire every last one of the strikers, be praised for being a big strong man who doesn’t negotiate with plebs, and the postal service will be de facto shutter, even if it still exists in as diminished a form as they can get away with while still satisfying whatever requirements there are to have such an institution.
Obviously striking always carries risk, but asking someone to almost certainly throw away their livelihoods for a course of action that will likely only accelerate Trump et al.'s goals is unreasonable.
Keep in mind, this is a new Gilded Age. Trump would most certainly call in the Pinkertons for some good ol’ fashioned strike breaking.
I really don’t understand why money is so much more important to these people than not fucking over the environment.
But I guess you don’t get stinking rich by thinking about anything other than money. The concept of a wider world must really be foreign to these cunts.
Maybe a few more assassins are in order.
Controlled hvac systems wherever they go, travel to anywhere on the planet to golf at your desired temperature.
USPS employees love it.
Crippling the USPS with additional fuel costs and shitty low mileage vehicles will work out great I’m sure.
As designed so they can privatize.
Easier to control mail in ballots if it’s privatized.
Not just that. They’re going to cripple these services so bad that they don’t even function and then blame their ineptitude on this sick remnant of the Democratic past, while they point at the flaws they created as justification.
You won’t have a choice. You don’t, actually.
Exclusive: Trump does stupid shit. more at 11.
Hey look! Let’s just raise a huge middle finger to what’s left of our ecosystems.
How did it go? Yes, humanity was destroyed, but for one moment we maximized profits!
deleted by creator
I think you’re under some misconceptions about how this has happened. The old trucks are completely non-viable. Way past their expected lifespan. They all need to go. If there was a time to phase out the old trucks, it was about 20 years ago.
The new trucks come in EV and gas flavors. The EV version only has a 70 mile range, but that’s plenty for many city/suburban routes. So they’re putting them in where they make sense and everything else gets the gas version. Over time, a longer range EV version could take over the vast majority of routes, if not all of them.
deleted by creator
They got those because the Gremlins are falling apart. They’re not likely to be scrapped. They’re probably going to be sold at auction a few years from now.
USPS doesn’t like selling the old Gremlins at auction because they’re sensitive about anyone impersonating a mail carrier (though a few have slipped through into private hands). Nobody else operates them, so any Gremlin looks like a mail carrier. A Metris, though, is just another van, and a quick paint job to remove the USPS logos is all they need.
deleted by creator
Trump doesn’t care. He’s going to be dead in a few years and as far as he’s concerned, the entire universe could instantly implode afterward.
In fact, he probably thinks the universe ends when his finite energy battery that keeps his fat ass from exercising gives out.
Not to mention that carriers love the new trucks.
Because they’re heated and actually safe to drive and don’t break down every two months like the old mail vehicles.
They’ll still get the gas powered ones. Pretty much have to; those old mail trucks are far past their expiration date.
You’re assuming trump intends to keep the USPS. He wants to destroy/privatise it. He said so all the way back in 2021, but at the time, didn’t have a mandate to actually accomplish it.
His cronies stand to make billions if the USPS is dismantled and all mail and shipping can go through their companies instead.
There it is!
At this point, it’s not really about maximizing profits, it’s about trying to undo every change Biden made
At this point, it’s not really about maximizing profits, it’s about trying to undo every change Biden made
Its even worse. The new truck was likely by Dejoy, Trump’s own appointee.
Trump’s is Putin’s puppet. He’s set to destroy whatever he can.
The way he talked about Putin making Obama look dumb… he thinks that when you act like an asshole and tear down what someone built that it makes the other person look bad.
That’s cause he’s a bully. He’s only ever brought people down to bring himself up. He thinks this is the same thing.
Those trucks get like six miles to the gallon, they’re a massive liability on American finances. If the average price of gas changes by a cent that’s something like nearly a million dollars difference. This isn’t maximizing profit, this is just being petty to own the libs.
The existing fleet is past aging out, they are often held together with patch welds and duct tape in my area. Is the plan ride it until the wheels literally fall off, with no replacements in pipeline?
It’s like having an enemy agent in the big chair leads to terrible decisions for basic needs…
Actually yes. They want to privatize it so that they can make money on it. Failure is the goal.
“Failure is the goal” needs to be the subtitle of every news story for the foreseeable future.
Actually yes. They want to privatize it so that they can make money on it. Failure is the goal.
Actually yes. They want to privatize it so that they can
make money on itfurther exploit the working class. Failure is the goal.Although you’re right, I like to call out what it will do to everyone so it’s more explicit and will hopefully click in people’s minds.
Yeah but even if that’s the play - could private business even fill the gap? USPS stretches the final miles deep into places not profitable to deliver to. Businesses, doing business stuff, use it to economically have their products available to the rural communities that voted these policies in… it’s all so confusing.
Is mailing a letter automated space communism? Sheesh.
And ironically, it’s the flyover deep red parts of the country that are the most rural, and therefore the most unprofitable legs of these delivery services. As with so many other GOP policies, it would mostly impact their supporters.
The worse it gets, the more they’ll blame the libs
They don’t care if there’s gaps, those people just won’t get mail service. They’re only interested in extracting as much money as they can from the rotting husk of the US economy. They’ve just hollowed out so much of the middle class now that they’re scraping the bottom of the barrel and need to start squeezing the last dregs out of the barely profitable things like the USPS.
No. Not only can it not fill the gap there isn’t an intent to.
It’s just, sell off a chunk of the government so someone can make money on a service.
Why is that a question? How else do you plan to privatize one of the most ubiquitous federal services?
The plan is to make it so ineffective it can justifiably be privatized entirely and their friends make millions by jacking up rates on a product that by design and necessity has no direct competitors.
I can’t say watching red wisconsin counties get fucked hard by Trump doing the thing everyone expected him to do isn’t satisfying
What’s the connection here to Wisconsin directly?
This is the corporation that got one of the two main contracts to create the electric mail carriers
