13% of Democrats agree with Trump on that.

What the actual fuck?

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      Nuh uh. I was born here. My parents were born here. (/s, of course)

      Let’s not go back any further than that because it hurts the argument.

      For context, I am 50% Italian, 25% French, 12.5% Irish, and 12.5% English. At least going off what my parents had told me. I never did a DNA test or anything.

      It’s been barely 60 years since racism against Italian- and Irish-American individuals really eased up. All based on xenophobia and an anti-Catholic belief. Before that, they may as well have been Black. Or worse, Japanese.

      Tons of people alive today that experienced it first hand. Did all the lead in the paint and gasoline make them forget all about it?

      Even still today we have to tiptoe around ideas like renaming Columbus Day. On the one hand, he was a massive piece of shit. On the other hand, it’s morphed into the only holiday celebrating Italian-American heritage. I very much agree with the former, but if we are gonna go all-out on St. Patrick’s Day, Italians should have a day too.

      Maybe we could make a bigger deal out of St. Joseph. I could really go for a zeppole right about now, but that’s really all I know of the day. It’s a day for a zeppole.

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      i live in a small town full of old people who incessantly whine about people “moving here and trying to change things” from other parts of the country. while sitting on stolen cherokee land.

      among americans there is this weird fucked up notion that we are, and always were, entitled to this land, and no one else is allowed on it. including the people who were living here first. it’s been passed down through generations since the first colonists and still remains, even among democrats. so we hate “other,” but we especially hate them when they move into town. and god fucking forbid they ever speak anything but 'murican

      for context, my town still has a confederate statue because the usual “bUt MuH hIsToReEeEeEeEs”

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    A third of Americans are xenophobic bigots. Got it.

    Meanwhile they proudly exclaim their great great great great grand daddy came in on the Mayflower.

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      They also love to claim that they had a great-grandmother who was “full-blooded Cherokee” (it’s almost always Cherokee) and if you check their DNA, nope. All European.

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      People forget very quickly. Just look at what’s happening in Germany and Austria and the Netherlands and France and Italy. It’s like everyone’s ignoring history.

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        Yes, and people who forget history are destined to repeat it. It’s sad to hear some people in Germany wanting to “get over” our history…

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          America’s entire Capitalist model is based on 3-month cycles of amnesia. It is designed to forget. Business could be run successful, profitable, and non-asshole, but the hunt for the next quarterly positive shareholder report by design blinds them permanently from comprehending history.

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        You’re right. I just meant that with the background of our history, that it’s something that wasn’t just said, but actually happened, it feels more concerning.

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    Which immigrants? They said that about Italians, then Irish. Seems the new guys on the block are always the bad guys until they aren’t.

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        Literally African-American.

        Can we bring back lynching for a day? Just for him?

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            No no. Just for him. There’s a special place in hell for him and his clique, and the more painful way to deliver him there the better.

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          Lynching? Because he’s technically African-American? Wow dude.

          I agree with ending the rich and nationalizing their fortunes, but that’s a bad joke.

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    So a third of the country are Nazis.

    Not racists, not misinformed, not uneducated, but actual Nazis.

    In ~20 days, the most powerful and dangerous country on earth may well elect a party of Nazis to rule them.

    God help us all.

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    Any issue any position, you can get 25% to agree. Another 5% is rounding error. Another 3% you get from trolls.

    Just like that, you can get 1/3 support for anything you want and clickbait your way to victory!

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    When my Jewish roommate told his parents he was dating a gentile they told him he was “thinning the blood”

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    Who did they poll? How was the poll conducted? If it’s a phone poll you’re going to get old people, no one younger than 40 is going to do a phone poll. And most old people are conservatives. When it comes to polls, it’s very easy to manipulate the results either in how it’s done or how the results are interpreted.

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      If only there were some sort of article you could click on and read which would answer these questions for you. Maybe with a link directly to that poll.

      Alas…

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    There are only a few counties in the world that draw the smartest and most accomplished from the rest of the world. The USA is pretty high on that list. This gives the USA an unfair advantage worldwide in several ways:

    US schools and businesses get to pick from the best and brightest worldwide, promoting an atmosphere of high performance STEM jobs.

    US replaces lost high education and high IQ population, since there is a negative correlation between education level and reproduction.

    Finally, if you think in terms of winners vs losers, which I feel MAGAs do these days, other countries lose their best and brightest, making them less competitive to the USA.

    And of course don’t forget that the vast majority of Americans come from families that immigrated, and few would argue that they themselves should be sent back “to where they came from”.

    No matter how you look at it, immigration is extremely advantageous to the USA if handled properly and an enviable position that many other countries wish they could be in.

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    Well, seeing as 1/3 of Americans are brainwashed by mass media into following whatever hype train is set forth by the rich, I can see that. If their favorite corporate owned and ran “news” told them they didn’t need to eat, they would stop eating.

    America is home to racist morons, has been since July 4th, 1776. Most of the Founding Fathers owned slaves, and the Senate and Electoral College were established to ease the slave owners/states that their “property” would remain theirs.

    We’ve been a nation of hypocritical xenophobes who taught freedom and liberty while giving none of it to the majority, and every time we try to fix that they double down and make things worse. Not a single time has the US Government (or any government for that matter, but that’s more a “whatabout” in this topic) given people what they wanted freely, and peacefully.

    If we wanted to get rid of brain dead morons, we would solved it in the Civil War and Reconstitution. Second chance was in the 1960s when we were breaking down the barriers. Instead we still placated to the racists because we didn’t want to be too mean to the racist, sexist morons who started the mess in the first place.

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    “think of how dumb the average guy is. Now remember that half the population is dumber than him.” – George Carlin.