• irotsoma@lemmy.world
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    Why TF does it matter so much if you cheat in a single player game that they have to take such drastic measures to prevent it? In multiplayer, competitive games, I sort of get it, depending on context, but single player games, no way. I mod single player games all the time. It’s one of the main reasons I like PC gaming over console. I’d never buy a game that went this far to prevent something that has no effect on them or anyone else.

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      Lots of game developers started off as hobbyist modders when they were young. Maybe they’re trying to eliminate the future competition. More likely, Denuvo’s actual primary purpose is DRM and anti-cheat is just how it’s sold to players.

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        Something I often find myself explaining to my friends who I game with is just how much objectively terrible shit you can get gamers to not only tolerate, but support as long as you promise to “get rid of cheaters”… which is a hopeless goal. It took a lot of explaining to get them to accept my argument of “I would literally prefer cheaters over a new root kit for every game”

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    No, gamer you see, it’s really important that you grind these randomly generated kill quests to progress, it’s totally not to incentivize you to purchase the exp boost in our cash shop in this single player game, can’t have you using cheat engine to ruin your experience.

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    6 days ago

    Can we do something like reporting Denuvo or the kernel anticheats as malware in Windows defender?

    A game with a built in system lever logger that could theoretically monitor even your bank transactions should be reported as spyware/malware and users installing it should have to expressly acknowledge / authorise this.

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    Thankfully there is a very simple, no-effort solution to this: Don’t play their trash.

    I already don’t play their excruciatingly mediocre games and this just reinforces my avoidance is justified.

    Also good gods they’ve been milking this tired franchise for almost 2 decades now.

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        Denuvo is used by these companies because it’s shockingly effective. IIRC it has yet to be cracked on any game.

        Games that end up being available on the high seas have generally stopped paying for the Denuvo license.

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        Thanks to denuvo and there currently not being any active group capable of cracking denuvo, it’s not a guarantee the game will be cracked. Assassin‘s creed mirage took until last month, over a year after release, for a pirated copy to be available and it uses a debug executable, which may not become available for any other games or at least not in a timely manner. It might not be possible to play those games without the BS. Or on Linux, if it doesn’t run without kernel access for RAM monitoring

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          Denuvo works on a subscription basis. Sooner or later, they’re going to decide it’s not worth paying for anymore and the game will be available to pirate. Waiting a year is nothing.

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            Well, they haven’t so far removed denuvo from a single game, even those that have been cracked already. Ubisoft is big enough, that they might have their very own deal with Denuvo

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            From what I understand, she received flak for her anti trans views and decided to call it quits. She is Russian, so maybe she was drafted into the war effort as a hacker, or mosy likely she got paid off by these companies.

            Most crackers are in countries where extradition for this would be difficult even with solid evidence. Companies have changed tactic to just paying them off so they just don’t do it, or so the rumor mill says. 200k a year to a handful of people is a drop in the bucket for the denuvo cartel.

  • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
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    Search for ubisoft in steams store page, click the gear on the right hand side, click ignore to take out the trash.

    There had always been more then one lifetimes worth of stuff to do. Be picky

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    Can’t they just… Make a “normal game”? One that you install, play and that’s it?. Why the fuck do they need to monitor Ram? What the hell?

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        Ah, it’s in the article.

        To top it all off, Shadows’ EULA also includes a provision that allows the game to monitor your PC’s RAM to ensure you’re not running any unauthorized programs like macros, cheats, or hacks, a well-intentioned clause that nonetheless feels a touch out of place in a single-player game and could potentially scare off some of the more suspicious players who aren’t comfortable with their hardware being monitored.

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            Is there maybe an online multiplayer component to the game which might otherwise experience cheating? I dunno. 🤷‍♂️

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                Oh ffs 🤦‍♂️ If I bought the game and want to cheat myself out of the experience, just let me do so…!

                If I’m understanding you correctly, level boosters are things you can activate to… skip levels? Reach character levels quicker?

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                  Correct. They make games that are dozens of hours long and filled with repetitive content, and if you skip the content you don’t want to do, you tend to be under leveled for the stuff you do want to do, and they’ll sell you boosters to hit that level instead.

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                  Yeah they let you skip the artificially inflated grind in your single player experience.

                  Buying them is not cheating yourself out of the experience, but instead it brings back the intended speed of progression.

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      Anti cheat (it’s actually anti piracy which is not possible also they oops sell massive data dumps for cash oops)

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    i don’t know how many years ago i got completely bored with the entire AC franchise, but it was long enough that i find this hilarious

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      I loved the first couple before I stopped playing games entirely for a decade. But I was a console player and didn’t have to think about things like this.

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      AC IV Black Flag was my last one and it was pretty good. It also came out over a decade ago. At what point does it become retro?

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          yeah… for me I was willing to give black flag a chance to see if they would find a way to make a new series, maybe with a new current day plot, but nah. people seem to dislike the current day portion of those games but to me that was the main interest, along with the mythology…

          black flag’s current day portion was so goddamn awful, they turned abstergo into a parody of ubisoft? I don’t even know what they were thinking… but it was so immersion breaking. completely killed my interest.

          pirate stuff was fun, and it still had a nice plot twist near the beginning… but it was clear that the overall story was going nowhere so I just quit playing after that and decided that the series ended with 3.

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    Man, and I was still looking a bit forward to this game. Why can’t you just be normal, Ubisoft?