Even Ubuntu is fine as a gateway drug. Or Pop Os! Don’t be afraid to recommend easy solutions to Linux beginners who otherwise might not be interested in learning the internals.
Anyone who is just starting out with Linux and doesn’t want to put in a lot of effort should definitely choose Mint over Arch. If you really want to learn the ins and outs, Arch is great. If you just want a usable computer, Mint is your daddy.
I did the same with Endeavour and ended up on fedora. I can monitor and merge pacnew files…… but why the hell should I when fedora runs like a champ with software almost as fresh off the presses as arch and basically zero maintenance.
An arch based system was an excellent learning tool but it isn’t viable for the majority of users.
Just my two cents I could only get my Ryzen 5 5600X and RTX 3080 to run games reliability on EndeavourOS. Tried PopOS, Kubuntu and Fedora KDE spin and all those had issues after a while or failed to run games out of the box and following wikis/guides
Believe it or not, when I had my old 2060 laptop I used EndeavourOS for the same reason. But now I’m on a full AMD system, and the quirks of nvidia are no longer an issue for me. So yeah, good two cents. Everyone’s Linux journey involves some trial and error and finding what works for you.
It keeps getting better. Better HW support, newer packages, no Canonical corporate crap. I run it on my gaming machine, work laptop, server, nas, and a 2013 netbook.
Canonical has left a bad taste in my mouth far too many times. Snaps are generally awful, collecting analytics without user knowledge at one point. If I was going to use something Ubuntu based it would be mint, but I prefer a native vanilla gnome experience.
Do you use Fedora Workstation or Silverblue? Is the KDE version fine to use? I’m pretty tempted to switch, I just want a reasonably up to date system that doesn’t get in my way.
I run workstation with Gnome. KDE is fine, and fedora implements it in vanilla fashion without any tweaks, which is good. I personally stopped using KDE because it doesn’t always work the way I want it to, and Gnome does. Games can easily be swapped between monitors if it opens on the wrong one initially. Gnome took some getting used to but it’s fantastic. Give it a shot.
Use fedora KDE then, they are working on making it the same status as fedora workstation.
You will not lose out on anything by using the KDE iso. Well except gnome and gnome related packages, of which you can install any one of if you want them later
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better option for most ppl
Even Ubuntu is fine as a gateway drug. Or Pop Os! Don’t be afraid to recommend easy solutions to Linux beginners who otherwise might not be interested in learning the internals.
i have zero issues with ubuntu and have distrohopped alot
For those that are interested in Arch (btw), but don’t want to install manually.
I use Antergos myself but second this easier install method!
Edit meant EndeavourOS
Anyone who is just starting out with Linux and doesn’t want to put in a lot of effort should definitely choose Mint over Arch. If you really want to learn the ins and outs, Arch is great. If you just want a usable computer, Mint is your daddy.
Anyone who suggests Arch as the starter Linux distro is absolutely delusional and has probably never spoken to or interacted with the average person.
They’re the kind of people who write “Git gud, n00b!” in Linux forums.
I also won’t recommend someone to use Arch as their first Distros. You will not have a great time. You need to learn how to use the terminal first.
Thats fair, i also did it for the memes.
On Lemmy it does feel like preaching to the choir but thats no excuse to not have included both.
You can’t seriously be suggesting Arch for new Linux users.
I wasn’t really. Read the rest of the comments.
But on another note i went straight from windows to Arch as a complete linux noob and never looked back.
I did the same with Endeavour and ended up on fedora. I can monitor and merge pacnew files…… but why the hell should I when fedora runs like a champ with software almost as fresh off the presses as arch and basically zero maintenance.
An arch based system was an excellent learning tool but it isn’t viable for the majority of users.
This concludes my sectarian rant. Btw.
Just my two cents I could only get my Ryzen 5 5600X and RTX 3080 to run games reliability on EndeavourOS. Tried PopOS, Kubuntu and Fedora KDE spin and all those had issues after a while or failed to run games out of the box and following wikis/guides
Believe it or not, when I had my old 2060 laptop I used EndeavourOS for the same reason. But now I’m on a full AMD system, and the quirks of nvidia are no longer an issue for me. So yeah, good two cents. Everyone’s Linux journey involves some trial and error and finding what works for you.
why not ubuntu?
Debian > Ubuntu. Less extra stuff shoveled in and while not bleeding edge it’s not a dinosaur.
yes, i like debian as well. just havent used in a few years.
It keeps getting better. Better HW support, newer packages, no Canonical corporate crap. I run it on my gaming machine, work laptop, server, nas, and a 2013 netbook.
Yes i know.
lol no.
Canonical has left a bad taste in my mouth far too many times. Snaps are generally awful, collecting analytics without user knowledge at one point. If I was going to use something Ubuntu based it would be mint, but I prefer a native vanilla gnome experience.
Do you use Fedora Workstation or Silverblue? Is the KDE version fine to use? I’m pretty tempted to switch, I just want a reasonably up to date system that doesn’t get in my way.
I run workstation with Gnome. KDE is fine, and fedora implements it in vanilla fashion without any tweaks, which is good. I personally stopped using KDE because it doesn’t always work the way I want it to, and Gnome does. Games can easily be swapped between monitors if it opens on the wrong one initially. Gnome took some getting used to but it’s fantastic. Give it a shot.
I’m really happy with KDE, I love how customizable it is and I also mostly prefer KDE software. Gnome is cool, but it’s not for me.
But I’ll give Fedora Workstation a shot, thanks!
Use fedora KDE then, they are working on making it the same status as fedora workstation.
You will not lose out on anything by using the KDE iso. Well except gnome and gnome related packages, of which you can install any one of if you want them later
second serious option for most people