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- news@lemmy.world
Summary
The International Criminal Court (ICC) has issued arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, former defense minister Yoav Gallant, and Hamas officials, accusing them of war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza and during the October 2023 attacks.
The court alleges actions like depriving Gaza civilians of essential resources.
Israel and the U.S., non-members of the ICC, reject the warrants, with Netanyahu calling them antisemitic.
Hamas also criticized the decision.
The practical enforcement of these warrants remains uncertain, as the ICC lacks authority to compel arrests.
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They’ve been preparing for this for a while. Months ago already I remember reading accusations of the ICC being antisemitic by Israelis and various sympathisers. The old fiddle that never stops playing.
What do rank and file military realize they have to start refusing certain orders?
When do the Americans cut off the supply of certain weapons?
When does the Israeli populace see that a radically new direction is needed to secure peaceful relations “from the river to the sea”?
Finally! Now arrest the fuckers.
He first needs to come out of Israel to visit a country that recognized the ICC…
And then the country still needs to actually arrest him. Am I right, Mongolia?
He is not Putler though. Israelis may be war criminals as much as Russians are but their strength to influence other states decision is somewhat limited. Apart from the USA of course which for some reason appears to be Israeli puppet.
Bingo
Now do their enablers.
‘‘How are you today?’’ ‘‘That’s an antisemitic question.’’
(again)
Shove em all in the same cell, add one vaguely sharp rock, leave them there indefinitely
Good news
Those warrants aren’t worth the paper they’re printed on, but it’s still nice to see official bodies outside the US calling Netanyahu what he is.
These warrants absolutely matter in terms of being a trumo card in several legal issues relating to EU-Israel relations.
It’s a nice thought. I won’t hold my breath expecting any real consequences for Israel, though.
The saddest thing is that if they do take action, it will be the lowest bar possible of accountability. They’ll for example ban products from illegal settlements and then let Israel redurect them anyways.
Those warrants are worth a lot. Not enough to put them behind bars, but still a lot!
Finally
Cue “ICC is antisemitic”, just like the ICJ, the UN, every human rights organisation, the Special Rapporteur, independent journalists, protestors etc etc.
Antisemitism and victimhood are the only cards left for Zio fascists to play with.
Better late than never, for all the good it will do…
How’s that working out?
The name of the game is sanctions. Russian can sustain itself under “nuclear” sanctions. Sanction Israel, and the comfortable lifestyle of illegal Lebensraum settlers will start to look rather unattractive.
ICC charges are directed at individuals, not entire countries. They wouldn’t justify sanctions for the same reason governments don’t sanction Saudi Arabia for being the home of bin Laden.
I couldn’t think of a more absurd analogy. If Osama Bin Laden was Saudi Arabia’s head of state, and 9/11 was carried out by the Saudi military, and Saudi was party to the Rome Statute, then maybe you make such an analogy. As it actually stands, Netanyahu’s crimes were carried out by the state of Israel and that certainly has legal bearing inside the EU’s courts, with very recent precedent - sanctions on Russia citing the ICC arrest warrant for Putin. And Russia is not even party to the Rome Statute - the state of Israel is, and would be violating by not giving Netanyahu up.
He wasn’t able to travel to Brazil for this reason. I’d say its working
I mean it’s done quite a lot to diplomatically isolate them, right? Putin couldn’t go to South Africa for BRICS, he couldn’t attend the G20 summit this week, and presumably lots of other trips he hasn’t done that he would have otherwise intended to
In Israel’s case, I expect this will be a pain for Netanyahu more than it has been for Putin, since the set of countries that are neither ICC signatories nor actively hostile to Israel is a pretty short list
He’ll still go back and forth to the US without issue I’d imagine.
Yes indeed, sadly the US is not a signatory
This is the correct call! A majority of Palestinians and Israeli do not want war. It’s a few bad apples on both sides and they should all be jailed.
The majority of Israelis do want war. They only want the hostages out more.
As someone living in Israel, that’s a nice thought but a fundamental misunderstanding of Israeli politics. The vast majority of Israelis not only support war but support a complete and total genocide of every Muslim in the middle east. Furthermore a very large amount of Israelis see the hostages as an acceptable loss if it means they can kill more Palestinian civilians. Its not “a few bad apples”, Israel is a fundamentally rotten “nation” that only exists on genocide and war.
Israelis are largely in favor of it. Netanyahus approval has skyrocketed, when they launched the offensive on Lebanon and Israelis opposing the wars and occupation are increasingly targeted by the government and government affiliated “settler” terror groups. These terror groups have ramped up their pogroms in East Jerusalem and the West Bank and decent Israelis who get in their way are beaten while the IDF watches.
Genocide takes a lot more than a few bad apples making a whoopsie.
You would be surprised!
Israelis are terrorists who take part of the IDF to ensure the occupation of Palestine.
Of course, people like Haredi Jews and other minorities that don‘t take part of the IDF are innocent. But the rest are terrorists and should be treated as such. ✊
The Palestinian armed resistance is completely valid and it isn’t a „few bad apples“.
Finally… it was about time!
Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders have condemned ICC Chief Prosecutor Karim Khan’s request for warrants as disgraceful and antisemitic.
Antisemitism does manifest itself in both casual and systematic forms. The region-specific component is also important.
However, claims regarding antisemitism from the Israeli government are increasingly becoming a “reverse confirmation” of sorts. One could almost argue that if they call something antisemitic, chances are it’s actually not and may even be the correct course of action (clear cut cases notwithstanding).
As a Jew, I’m becoming desensitized to the word “antisemitic.” Even my Israeli cousins overuse the word and can’t explain to me how this kind of shit is antisemitism beyond “Hamas wants to kill us.”
the Palestinians did not get to choose the ethnicity of their oppressors.
“You can’t cry wolf and BE the wolves. Do you not understand what the villagers do to wolves?”
Decrying the persecution of crimes against humanity as antisemitic is quite something. It begs the question then, what these people see inherently Semitic about perpetrating these crimes.
The blatant misuse of this term is actually very harmful to Jews around the world, since calls of those actually suffering from anti-Jewish sentiment are not taken seriously anymore.
It’s the local variant of fake news.
TLDR: it’s not antisemitic, it’s just anti-Bibi.
https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism
That’s the definition they use, so anything you say against the State they see as being against the ethnicity, which doesn’t make sense.
Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders have condemned request for warrants as disgraceful and antisemitic.
I wasn’t aware he was a stand up comedian. I mean, I always knew he was a clown.
What region-specific component are you referring to? I’m genuinely asking, not being argumentative. I completely agree that holding Netanyahu accountable for war crimes is not antisemitism, let alone the ICC charging leaders on both sides of the conflict.
I am looking at it from a more abstract, generic perspective.
When you lose the right to freely travel, work, live in your country. There is going to be a lot of animosity around this. I don’t think it is fair to purely attribute this to a discriminatory attitude.
