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Cake day: June 20th, 2023

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  • Can I just add a different perspective on this?

    My dad is really old (like early baby-boomers), and I am basically the in-family tech support when the home computer starts acting strange.

    Well, right after google rolled out this update, my dad clicked on what he thought was an online shopping link. It was actually an ad for a toolbar add-on. Queue Cue like 6+ hours trying to uninstall that add-on and the bundled software.

    I never had to worry about that in the past with him because I had u-block origin installed. Now I need to find something else that can run quietly in the background. And probably a better antivirus.


  • So yeah not quite 99/100 but definitely a majority, especially recently. And I agree its very concerning that domestic terrorists are usually far-right. It is something I’ll bring up in the future to Trumpists, I honestly don’t know what their reaction to this info would be, but I hope it causes some kind of change.

    Grouping Islamists with domestic right-wing is a bit odd, but I get your point. I doubt they would vote for Trump. Trump would also absolutely deploy the national guard and army against Islamic extremists, even if they were “right-wing” technically.

    I could potentially see an argument that Islamists would be leftist in an American context, since their main opponent was the Bush and Republican administration, but that is also a stretch.

    58% Far Right, 8% Far left, and 27% Islamist

    Seems the most descriptive. Thanks for the info and stats


  • I know these people closely. I don’t think they expect him to go full on dictator. Maybe thats true for some other Trumpists, majority not true for the ones I know.

    Talking points you brought up seem to be a strawman. For Christians, a big reason they vote for Trump is because the Republican party has taken a hard stance on not allowing abortion. For many, many Christians, that is as serious a topic, as facism is on left-wing discussion forums.

    And again, their voting ideology is not so clear cut. They don’t support Trump because they believe he is perfect in every category, rather, he checks the one box (or rather, his party) that is extremely controversial and important to them.

    Also yeah, right-wing extremists are more common then left-wing. So there is a concern there. I stand by what I said though, that the majority of Trump voters do not support extremist action.



  • Yeah that’s a fair point. I looked into it a bit more, right-wing extremists have sharply increased since Jan 6th, so there is a concern there. It isn’t 99/100 though. Still high, like 90/100 Maggoty got some data, real number for violent terrorist attacks by political ideology is 85% far right to 8% far left. Or rather, 58% far right, 8% far left, 27% Islamist

    For anyone interested in the stats, this is taken from the Profiles of Individual Radicalization in the United States (PIRUS) dataset at start.umd.edu


  • From my conversations with Trump supporters, they typically acknowledge Trump is a bad choice and don’t like the way he acts, talks, etc. They typically view what Trump says as an exaggeration, saying things like “he won’t actually xyz”.

    Universally, people I know that support Trump in real life, support him either because they are Christian, and feel that the Democratic party is against their core values. Or, they feel some kind of hatred against leftists, because of propoganda they have been fed.

    That’s the way I see reality. There are extremists on both sides, but I refuse to stop believing that Trumpists aren’t voting with what they believe is best for America, even if I personally disagree with them.

    I really dislike these discussions that paint the other side of a political battle as something insane like Nazi’s, that just isn’t real, and it makes me so sad to see people either believing it, or feeding the cycle by adding to the joke.



  • I like how the top 2 comments imply that all the trump supports are nazi supporters, despite the article explicitly stating that the boat was a known anti-semitic person who has tried to stir shit up in europe as well. There is even a video of trump supporters splashing the boat to try to get them out of the parade: https://twitter.com/i/status/1845629364525846602

    I think I’m going to stop interacting with political feeds until after the election. It seems obvious that party politics are in full swing, and everyone is trying to demonize the other by making strawman arguments. Please, just vote logically and for the rights and justifications that are at stake, not because you think your fellow americans that disagree with you are anti-semitic.