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Oil and gas are the apple that will get us kicked out of Eden.

Yes, my MAGA family members bought Trump’s line of “I don’t know who is involved in that”.

I actually think you’re wrong. Having MAGA family members, I tuink they are legitimately brainwashed. They are in a bubble where they don’t hear the bad about Trump. They only hear good things about him and ad things about his enemies. Some of what they hear is true, much of it is lies, all of it is intended to scare.

I think that, had these people heard the same things the rest of us did, at least some of them would be voting differently. Not all, but enough.

I carry around PowerPoint presentations that contain huge loops of satellite data. I love my 1TB USB stick.

Not enough capslock

The problem is that Republicans are being told that there is proof. That the fraud is rampant and everyone knows it. It’s just that “they” keep removing and hiding the information.

My mom seriously believes that there is mountains of proof and that she has seen it in the past, but can’t find it anymore because it has been deleted from the internet.

And the statewide margin was still a 14 point margin. Too much to overcome with 12 stolen ballots.

You’re right, it is. In 2020 not a single race in Mesa County was competitive. Likewise, none of the state-wide races were competitive enough to have their results changed even if everyone in Mesa County voted the same way.

You’re probably right but I don’t really get it. Mesa County is so red that Trump won by 28 points in 2020. What was this person trying to achieve? For that matter, what was Tina Peters was trying to achieve? I just don’t understand how either of them could have made a difference when, in 2020, Trump won by over 25K votes out of a total of 91K votes cast and 107K registered voters.

You’re probably right there. Looking up the onky quoted I’ve been able to find from Musk on the topic, I think he’s been careful not to incriminate himself directly. Either that or he’s been lucky in his phrasing…

… or imprisoned not more than 5 years …

That said, your point isn’t wrong. $10,000 is nothing in this context. Criminal fines should be in direct proportion to a person’s income. Also, statutes, when they mention monetary value, should peg that value to invlation, income, or some other metric that scales with time. We have SOOOOO many laws on the books that use ridiculous numbers by modern standards but were reasonable at the time they were enacted.

It’s so dumb that you’re getting downvoted for telling people the truth that they don’t want to hear. Of course you can’t just “prosecute the board”. Individually, they may or may not be complicit.

It does seem that Musk could be seen as obviously complicit, though, since he is the one out there making the pitch. DOJ should be able to go after him, criminally, if the activity continues, right?

I’m sure this is true. I wish there was a way to communicate it better, though. People have been sounding the alarm for so long that stories like this fall flat with most people. I don’t have a solution, I’m just lamenting that most people will just scroll past because we’ve been hearing dire warnings like this for decades.

Well, that’s kind of what a cease and desist is. It says, in a formal but mostly polite way, “stop doing that or we’ll become less nice”.

Hey, did you know that 100% fascist is more fascist than 0% fascist?

Please stop twisting words just to be annoying.

Yeah, that’s what I said.

I generally agree with you, but it does make her eat some of her own words as pointed out elsewhere in this comment section:

I think it’s fairly obvious who the more fascist candidate is here. I think it says something that Trump is too fascist for Cheney.

Also, shoving Stein’s words in her face doesn’t mean OP agrees with those words, just that Stein’s words are particularly problematic at the moment.

In my area, Walgreens always seems empty, their prices are super high, and their pharmacists seem ready to quit.

I’m sure their mismanagement of the medical practices they’re snapping up isn’t helping them much either. I’m pissed at them for buying up one of the largest local medical providers and completely fucking them up. We used to be able to get in to see a doctor in a reasonable amount of time for long-term issues and could generally get an appointment day-of or the day after for acute issues. Now, when you call to get an acute appointment they say that nothing is available for MONTHS. I called to be seen for a sinus infection in February and was told nothing was available until July.

We switched providers and are much happier with the service, but we miss our old doctors…