Huh both those articles confirm what I said and say the claim might be a prank. I don’t know what this has to do with being wrong about where vinegar comes from.

That’s behind a paywall. I’m gonna stand on the side of science and point back to what I said in my last response.

If that is in fact a thing, it’s marketing and fermentation doesn’t work that way. And raises a lot of interesting question about how they manage to clear FDA guidelines. I wonder if their candida is isolated and propagated in controlled conditions? More likely it’s a lie.

The yeast that colonizes humans is a different species altogether and doesn’t produce alcohol, at least not in concentrations high enough to make wine. Actually would love an expert to come in on this, I learned about it long ago but have forgotten the details.

Anyway, I know enough to say they could add their natural spice to the mix, but they need wine yeast to make the alcohol which will quickly out-compete whatever strains they’re shlipping in there.

If you end up with vinegar, it’s because of the yeast. Yeast is naturally everywhere, so when you’re fermenting you can either use chemicals or heat to sterilize your mash (whatever you’re fermenting) to help make sure only the yeast you add is populating the batch. Otherwise, yeah, the natural yeasts that are already on the fruit, grains or whatever will do their own thing.

Keep in mind there are similar flavours to vinegar that can be produced even if there’s little to no acetic acid present, like sour beers that use lactobacillus or if you boil your grains too hot for too long on a dark beer.

You’re all wrong. Different strains of yeast are used in making vinegar. Oxygen is integral to primary fermentation in both wine and vinegar but in secondary and bottling it is minimized because oxidation negatively affects the flavor. If you end up with vinegar when you tried to make wine, it’s because yeast that produce vinegar got into your brew.

Aren’t bananas berries, too?

I just read the Oz thing. I fucking can’t anymore.

If y’all are going back to the Victorian era, why not bring back poisoning?

“You can’t be allergic to weed, it’s literally medicine.”

The war with AI didn’t start with a gun shot, a bomb or a blow, it started with a Reddit comment.

This is what makes Arrival so good. They don’t want the best person for the job because she insists on being involved, they give the aliens nicknames immediately and everything goes to shit at the first excuse to start a war.