Why did UI’s turn from practical to form over function?

E.g. Office 2003 vs Microsoft 365

Office 2003

It’s easy to remember where everything is with a toolbar and menu bar, which allows access to any option in one click and hold move.

Microsoft 365

Seriously? Big ribbon and massive padding wasting space, as well as the ribbon being clunky to use.

Why did this happen?

  • satanmat@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Funny story, before they did the 2007 redesigns, they asked users what they wanted to be added; 95% said features that were already in Office.

    The Ribbon was designed to make features more findable.

    Alas.

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    2 months ago

    Weirdly as someone who has used both styles heavily, I’d say the ribbon is more practical than the old toolbars. There’s more contextual grouping and more functional given the tabs and search, plus the modern flat design is less distracting, which is what I’d want from a productivity application. Also for me two rows of toolbars & a menu is about the same height as the ribbon anyway, and you can collapse the ribbon if you want to use the space

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    2 months ago

    I’m so tired of neck beards assuming that any spacing in a design is a waste, as if a good design packs every milimeter with stuff. Proper application of negative space is common in art and throughout design.

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      2 months ago

      You are among the first people I’ve seen online who hasn’t circlejerked about literally any level of padding/spacing being too much padding.

      People on Reddit/Lemmy always talk about how unusably shit any modern design is, and how UX/UI from 20+ years ago was so much better.

      Yet do people use ancient copies of the software that broadly still performs the tasks people need of them? No.

      Do they theme their system to look like the oh-so-superior Win98? No.

      Don’t get me wrong, sometimes I see a design change I dislike. But as a general rule, UI has definitely got better over the years.

      And don’t get me wrong, part of me feels great nostalgia at seeing old UX’s, because it reminds me of the “good old days” when I bought my first computer in 1999. It’s fun to Go back and use systems from back then. And at first you think AAAAA this is so cool, I remember all this, this looks neat, but after that nostalgia wears off you think *“thank god modern UIs aren’t inconsistent, cramped and cluttered like this”

      Nostalgia goggles are a powerful thing.

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      2 months ago

      Almost like Microsoft did a tremendous amount of user research aimed at improving the accessibility of the most commonly used features. I don’t use their products much, but the design has definitely improved over the years and extra padding is a big part of it.

  • Dr. Moose@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    UI designer here - people are simply getting dumber, tech-wise at least.

    That being said, there have been a lot of improvements in UI and UX world in the past 20 years the problem is that many users are so technically inept the drag down the entire curve all the way down.