Dave Troy :toad: (@davetroy@toad.social)
toad.social
1/IMPORTANT thread about Bluesky funding and origins. Many folks know that it was seeded by Jack Dorsey around a libertarian vision of a magical network that wouldn’t need moderation because it would be decentralized and baked into a protocol (somehow). The people who aided Dorsey in pursuing this vision were other libertarian/post-rationalists connected with effective altruism and other online anarchist movements.
    • davel@lemmy.ml
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      8 days ago

      Relatedly, that internet-famous Nazi bar story:

      I was at a shitty crustpunk bar once getting an after-work beer. One of those shitholes where the bartenders clearly hate you. So the bartender and I were ignoring one another when someone sits next to me and he immediately says, “no. get out.” And the dude next to me says, “hey i’m not doing anything, i’m a paying customer.” and the bartender reaches under the counter for a bat or something and says, “out. now.” and the dude leaves, kind of yelling. And he was dressed in a punk uniform, I noticed.

      Anyway, I asked what that was about and the bartender was like, “you didn’t see his vest but it was all nazi shit. Iron crosses and stuff. You get to recognize them.”

      And i was like, ohok and he continues. "you have to nip it in the bud immediately. These guys come in and it’s always a nice, polite one. And you serve them because you don’t want to cause a scene. And then they become a regular and after awhile they bring a friend. And that dude is cool too. And then THEY bring friends and the friends bring friends and they stop being cool and then you realize, oh shit, this is a Nazi bar now. And it’s too late because they’re entrenched and if you try to kick them out, they cause a PROBLEM. So you have to shut them down.

      And i was like, ‘oh damn.’ and he said “yeah, you have to ignore their reasonable arguments because their end goal is to be terrible, awful people.”

      And then he went back to ignoring me. But I haven’t forgotten that at all.

  • The Hobbyist@lemmy.zip
    71·
    8 days ago

    I’m not sure I see the issue to be honest. The development is made in the open, the architecture is pretty flexible and is designed to be rather robust to rug pulls specifically such that less trust is required in the model.

    Also, whenever these discussions happen, I can’t stop feeling that it is somehow also meant to imply that mastodon is somehow better. And I am not a fan of that, as if there could only be one good social network. The internet is better with multiple services, multiple of many things. That’s how there is cooperation, compatibility and development for the better.

    • eldavi@lemmy.ml
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      8 days ago

      The internet is better with multiple services, multiple of many things. That’s how there is cooperation, compatibility and development for the better.

      bluesky doesn’t help with this; all social media platforms financed by investors are going to enshitify no matter how much they say they won’t at the beginning. (reddit also said that they wouldn’t the the beginning too).

      the inventors behind stories like bluesky and reddit are the same ones that are reducing the your choice of multiple services on multiple things because they have an incentive to kill progress when it’s competition that can challenge their profits and enshitify to squeeze out every last dollar before abandoning it themselves.