• UsernameHere@lemmy.world
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    Because the DNC put their thumbs on the scales and did everything they could to lock him out of the process while doing the opposite for Clinton.

    Source? The way I remember it Bernie didn’t get enough votes.

    If the chosen, status quo DNC candidates are so popular, why do they keep losing or nearly losing all their elections?

    Out of the last 5 elections they won 3.

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      Lies and statistics. Out of the last 7 elections they also won 3. And out of the last 3 they only won 1. Really it’s a pretty even split so far this century, and counting this last election Republicans have had the edge. So sure the dnc isn’t losing all of their elections, but ffs sake they should be doing a lot better than this.

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        I would like for them to be doing better than this also but if the person I responded to based their argument on the false claim that democrats are losing all the elections then they have already lost their credibility and are arguing in bad faith. So it is reasonable to expect for a source for their other claims.

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      The DNC was out of money and severely in debt after Obamas 2012 campaign. They conspired with Hillary because she paid off 80% of the debt and was funding the DNC. She had control of their finances and decisions because the DNC would go under without her

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          https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774/

          Donna Brazile is the former interim chair of the Democratic National Committee

          The Saturday morning after the convention in July, I called Gary Gensler, the chief financial officer of Hillary’s campaign. He wasted no words. He told me the Democratic Party was broke and $2 million in debt.

          “What?” I screamed. “I am an officer of the party and they’ve been telling us everything is fine and they were raising money with no problems.”

          That wasn’t true, he said. Officials from Hillary’s campaign had taken a look at the DNC’s books. Obama left the party $24 million in debt—$15 million in bank debt and more than $8 million owed to vendors after the 2012 campaign—and had been paying that off very slowly. Obama’s campaign was not scheduled to pay it off until 2016. Hillary for America (the campaign) and the Hillary Victory Fund (its joint fundraising vehicle with the DNC) had taken care of 80 percent of the remaining debt in 2016, about $10 million, and had placed the party on an allowance.

          “Wait,” I said. “That victory fund was supposed to be for whoever was the nominee, and the state party races. You’re telling me that Hillary has been controlling it since before she got the nomination?”

          Gary said the campaign had to do it or the party would collapse.

          “That was the deal that Robby struck with Debbie,” he explained, referring to campaign manager Robby Mook. “It was to sustain the DNC. We sent the party nearly $20 million from September until the convention, and more to prepare for the election.”

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            Interesting read. I was hoping for evidence though instead of anecdote. Also, I don’t see how it supports this claim:

            Because the DNC put their thumbs on the scales and did everything they could to lock him out of the process while doing the opposite for Clinton.

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              That would be every running primary candidate shifting their votes towards Hillary instead of distributing them evenly. In addition there was the Bloomberg run “out of nowhere” when Bernie was looking to be the headline candidate.

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                I don’t see how the decisions of each individual candidate would be considered a decision of the DNC.

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                    The majority of voters in America are moderate, not far right or left. For all the candidates to support the person with the best chances of winning is called strategy. For you to claim that the DNC made that decision for each candidate is a conspiracy theory.