I wonder if this will still hold true if Trump ends US support for Ukraine.

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    These are two of the most powerful men in the world. The US isnt as powerful as it would want you to believe. An allied Europe is a far bigger beast.

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      The United States is the world’s only Superpower, both economically and militarily, when it’s support dries up, it will leave a giant gaping hole that cannot be filled with a myriad of squabbling European states, and we know this because, since the 1930’s it never has.

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        You couldn’t be further from the truth. I wonder what your sources are. Please keep in mind that most of the 'Murica circlejerk sources are the least factual of all. I know that it’s getting harder and harder to differentiate fake news and propaganda from factual news these days, but your statement is complete nonsense.

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        By definition of who? It’s a nice word the USA would like to use for itself, but in reality it has no more influence than China, the EU and the Commonwealth. The truth is, the US will forever be a western ally, even if Trump would erode that somewhat through his rash decision making.

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          let’s meet back here in 12 months to discuss. i wish you well, and if european leaders were serious about stopping the threat that now looms over them all, they’d fucking do something about, as the alternative, and just waiting to see how it plays out, will see nazis marching on paris again.

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            I highly doubt the US would invade France. Sure, let’s meet back here in 12 months. I hope you’ll manage during that time, with the massive recession around the corner and all the Trump decisions putting the US in a massive economical crisis. Better stock up on food, water and toiletpapier buddy! Please let me know what life is like under a totalitarian regime.

            Having the war mongering US on your side sure is handy, but we’ll manage without. I’ve spent 15 years in the navy, I’ve seen the US operate. I rather have 3 Russian ships nearby then 1 US ship. What a bunch of dumb idiots they are. You could thank me, as I personally intervened to prevent a US ship to shoot down it’s own helo near the German coast. Never have I seen bigger idiots with guns then the US during my time in the navy. It’s not hard to believe me either I guess, seeing the convict nazi clown which just got re-elected.

            Both the definition of ‘stupid’ and ‘egocentric’ is ‘US’ these days. It’s mainly the US making the comedy movie “Idiocracy” look like a documentary instead. You certainly help with that.

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        US power comes from alliances with a bunch of other pretty damn powerful countries. If it does too much to strain Canadian, EU, UK, Japanese, South Korean, and Taiwanese relationships, US power goes away.

        Failure to continue to aid Ukraine weakens the value of US allyship to UK, EU, and Taiwan.

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      An allied Europe is a far bigger beast.

      That EU strength must be applied against US instead of tilting at Russian windmills. Most of the CIA media in EU is telling us how desperate, more concessions, the EU is to bend further to lick DJT diaper.