Summary

President Joe Biden’s economic achievements—lowering inflation, reducing gas prices, creating jobs, and boosting manufacturing—are largely unrecognized by the public, despite his successes.

His tenure saw landmark legislation like the Inflation Reduction Act, CHIPS Act, and major infrastructure investments.

However, Biden’s approval ratings remain low, attributed to inflation backlash, weak communication, and a media landscape prone to misinformation.

Democrats face a “propaganda problem” rather than a policy failure, with many voters likely to credit incoming President Trump for Biden’s accomplishments due to partisan messaging and social media dynamics.

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    Yes and no. I agree they solved the problems, but there was no fixing high prices even if inflation rate was brought down.

    It’s like when Kamala was asked “was there anything you’d do differently?” The problem was she actually answered the question. The administration made the right choices, so there was little different she would have done. She should have done the politician thing and answered adjacently how she’s going to solve high prices.

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    His adminstration may have not created them. But the neoliberal Democrats that he represents did going all the way back to Clinton.

    He also only deployed half measures or dragged his feet all the way until the last minute.

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      Voters have shifted right because they’re hurting, and the Dems promised 4 more years of the same. Trump promised to remove the elites and actively tear the country they created apart. That’s why they voted for him. The fact that’s it’s a lie and they’re stupid to believe it doesn’t matter. Telling people the economy is doing great while they are poorer than they were 4 years ago pushes them away.

      Liberals lost ~15 million former voters and handed America to a fascist dictator, and all they’ve done is blame the left and stick their head in the sand, as though the population didn’t just vote to tear the status quo apart. They did the same thing in 2016. They won’t get another chance, and they still don’t understand that.

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        Voters have shifted right because they’re hurting

        I don’t believe this is the case.

        • The Democratic Party took many steps rightward in Harris’ campaign (border security, death penalty, cheney).

        • Trump barely increased his vote count from 2020, like mayyybe 40k more votes?

        • 15 million Dem voters from 2020 didn’t vote at all this time rather more people voting R.

        • Leftist voices within the DNC spoke urgently and stridently about the DNCs need to listen to its left base more or face backlash.

        You got it backwards, the DNC misread the people and shifted to the right of its own base

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    Americans are misinformed because the media has been destroyed by financial incentives and the capital class.

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    Biden (and the rest of us) is being punished for the mistake of not making prosecuting trump and overturning his last 4 years the #1 priority.

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    Opinion: I Lost Because I Didn’t Do Anything Wrong and Have no Lessons to Learn

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    This is not a messaging problem it’s a measurement problem. The metrics we use to gauge economic progress and/or health are not effective indicators of anyone’s experience but the wealthy. When Dems tell me wages have gone up so income inequality is getting better what they mean is that new jobs are on average offering slightly higher pay to new hires.

    They don’t say that slightly higher pay is 5 cents an hour which is practically useless. They don’t acknowledge that this tiny wage increase is dwarfed by the impacts of inflation over the last 4 years. Worst of all, they don’t say that because this wage increase only applies to new hires, anyone working the same job for more than a couple of years hasn’t seen a wage increase at all, but that price gouging has definitely impacted them. That last one is important because it applies to a huge chunk of people.

    This is just the way it works out with wages but basically everything these pundits are saying is great under Biden could be described the same way. They’re talking about averages which when applied to 330 million people produce numbers that sound significant, but when you look at almost any individual it doesn’t make a practical difference in their lives. Sure, you may have slowed the rate at which things are getting worse, but are you honestly surprised at this reaction? You’re telling people you solved their problems and they’re responding “no, you absolutely did not and fuck you for saying that”

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      Yeah this shit is insane. We fixed inflation! Great, that’s great, but where are our, meaning the working class, 25% raises to offset the inflation that already happened? I’ll be up for my second raise in three years in 6 months. It’s already promised to be 7% which will beat inflation (and I plan to fight for more), but I would need 25% to get my pay to be worth the same as it was three years ago before my first raise.

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        Absolutely, and to be clear, this does not imply that Trump has a good solution to this problem. He’ll probably make it significantly worse. But at least he’s talking about it in a way that resonates with people. Don’t tell me my problem is that I don’t understand my own financial situation. Show me how you plan to improve it in ways that I actually care about.

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    Biden is going to be looked back upon extra fondly after the upcoming shit show we’re about to go through.

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      No hes not. Hes going to have the legacy of silent Cal, except instead of not doing enough to prevent the great depression, its going to be that he didnt do enough to fight fascism. We have laws that should have already punished Trump and Biden is the chief executor of those laws. Trumps freedom is a reflection of Bidens inaction.

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    Voters are pretty stupid. Seriously, the misinformation and willful ignorance on display is breathtaking.

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        i get and agree with the sentiment that donald trump will be worse in relation to the unbridled support of genocidal israel

        but framing 40,000+ murders as “you haven’t seen shit yet” is inappropriately dismissive. we have fucking seen shit. have some empathy when you use other people’s suffering to justify your internet argument.

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          Don’t both sides this issue. With Harris, this could have been de-escalated.

          So… yeah. We haven’t seen shit yet. Non voters just made things exponentially worse.

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      Inviting further genocide is not punishing him for the genocide. He didn’t play the strong man and step on a country America went and deeply intertwined itself in. So, instead, y’all held your smug, self-satisfied, fart sniffing noses high and let someonw who has championed the genocide take the reigns once more because yoh wrongly believe not touching the switch gets you out of the trolly problem.

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        You know the democrats were going to kill them all too right?

        We weren’t inviting further genocide. We were begging the Democrats to change their stance and begging the public to choose another option if they didn’t.

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    because trump and putin ran a very loud and constant disinformation campaign aimed at the rural/retired/inflation weary people that were the most vulnerable to it

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    The article doesn’t mention any issues related to policy, which made a lot of people not vote for the democrats.

    What he did do was miniscule. The only good thing that I can think of is some of the student loan forgiveness.

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    Basically every American I personally know lives paycheque-to-paycheque as megacorps move in to bleed them dry on every front.

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        I mean, not really, but it’s only $10 so sure.

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      So its a good thing that Biden used the SEC to break up monopolies and used the FTC to implement things like click-to-cancel, and invested 5 trillion dollars in the middle class and green energy manufacturing. Oh and he also tried to pass student debt relief but kept being stonewalled by repugnants.

      Biden was the first president to turn away from neoliberalism this century and everyone is upset he didn’t magically fix everything all at once.

      Bidens problem has been one of messaging. He didn’t know how to connect with the voters to get them to understand all the things he was doing.

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        He could have ran on it more. Trump understands the art of putting his name on the checks.

        Call Americans stupid, and we are, but I wish the party that was helping people was a bit more grandious and better about messaging then they are.

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          It’s also pretty hard to point to things and go “see? remember the thing we did 10 years ago? this is the effect it had!”

          Many of Biden’s policies will come to fruition during the next term and Trump will falsely claim responsibility because he can point to it right away.

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        I’m ootl, what monopolies got broken up? I tried looking it up but it’s not returning results.

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        I hoped that 2016 was a fluke, that Americans weren’t that dumb and hateful but rather we got caught unprepared by a personality we didn’t expect to run for president.

        I hoped that 2020 was the true thoughts of Americans, that the insurrection represented the dying grasp of an extreme minority.

        I don’t think Trump stole the 2024 election. I think it proved that yes, this is America. Whether you think America has changed into this or was always this, it doesn’t take away the fact that a majority of Americans will believe anything so long as it makes them hate. Good news doesn’t drive votes. Fear and anger drives votes.

        I’ve tried so much to try and be a middle of the road voice of reason and moderation with my friends and family. I didn’t want to be a knee jerk conspiracy theorist, I was always patient with people, listened to them, told them the places they were right, and asked them questions hoping they would ask themselves. I’d say “be like Mr. Rogers. And if someone isn’t acting like Mr. Rogers, be like Mr. Rogers.”

        It started to hit when a friend of mine who is very left wing told me that people with college degrees are brainwashed by the deep state. I had just told her I had a degree in political science.

        I ordered another drink and changed the subject but it hurt. Now I know she is representative of a majority of Americans. I’m worried civil war is all but inevitable when facts just don’t matter as much as anger.

        Edit: Lord grant me the strength to be like Mr. Rogers in this comment section.

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    Yep, exactly this. People kept acting like this was the worst economy ever, and, seriously…wtaf.