• werefreeatlast@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    We should keep their brain, dick and balls so we can clone the billionaires (adult sized from the clone-0-matic) then before they wake up, we upload their mind, and we fuck them with their own dick! Hey if you collect enough you could open up an only fans Page!

  • VariousWorldViews@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Eating the rich is by far the most eco-friendly approach as it can dramatically reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

  • Another Llama ⓥ@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    A couple of people have spoken to me before about wanting to cut back on, or completely cut meat from their diets, but didn’t know where to start. If anyone reading this feels the same way, here’s some fairly basic recipies that I usually recommend (Bosh’s tofu curry is straight up one of the best currys i’ve ever had - even my non-vegan family members love it)

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    Tofu is also super versatile and is pretty climate-friendly. there’s a bazillion different ways to do tofu, but simply seasoning and pan frying some extra/super firm tofu (like you do with chicken) with some peppers and onions, for fajitas, is an easy way to introduce yourself. Here’s a little guide for tofu newbies: A Guide to Cooking Tofu for Beginners - The Kitchn. If you wanna level up your tofu game with some marinades here’s six.

    Lentils and beans are also super planet friendly, super cheap, and super versatile! You’ll be able to find recipies all over that are based around lentils and beans so feel free to do a quick internet search.

    Sorry for the huge, intimidating wall of text! I do hope someone interested in cutting back on meat found this useful though :)

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      1 year ago

      One of the things that annoys me about vegans… is they always try to convince me [this recipe] always tastes like the real thing.

      And I think any one who eats meat on a regular basis is going to know an impossible burger is not beef- it might be the closest, sure.

      Probably the best way to “convert” people- or encourage reductions- is to be less apologetic. Tofu is wonderful and delicious as it’s own thing- but as tofu-chicken or tofurky or anything of that sort, it sets expectations that can never be met.

      Forgetting to mention a dish that stands in its own happens to be meatless… well, my parents were halfway through the second bowl of a tofu stir fry before they realized it.

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        1 year ago

        One of the things that annoys me about vegans… is they always …

        And one thing that annoys me about non-vegans is that they always tend to stereotype vegans. There are nearly 100 million vegans in the world my friend. We are not all the same.

  • 尺ㄖ匚Ҝㄚ尺丨ҜㄖҜㄖ@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Articles like this are dumb… This just puts the burdon on everyday people who are doomed to fail if they try. If the entire world turned vegan would it make a difference? Rather, how about some tough legislation against the top polluting companies responsible for climate change… That would mean some politicians would have to refuse a few bribes, tough I know, but any level of effort here will create more results than a world giving up meat

    https://peri.umass.edu/greenhouse-100-polluters-index-current

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      1 year ago

      If the entire world turned vegan would it make a difference?

      …yes. Plainly and obviously. Most land use would be gone overnight. Deforestation would stop immediately as would the second largest source of methane, one of the largest sources of NO2, and billions of tonnes of CO2 per year (about a quarter of all emissions). No other single initiative other than maybe ending urban driving would come close.

      If you’re in the global top 50% there is absolutely nothing stopping you from switching to a primarily plant based diet, and if you’re in the bottom 50% you probably don’t eat enough meat to be a major impact.

  • Jerkface (any/all)@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    Who gives a fuck about greenhouse gasses. All the creatures we create are our children, and all are owed the unconditional love and protection of their creators. The experiences of animals are real and matter. Their suffering is identical in nature to your own. It harms us when we take pleasure in cruelty and violence.

    You work so hard to block out that simple reality. The destruction of climate, personal health, and ecosystems, those are all just incidental to the atrocity that we are committing on intelligent creatures. You cannot enjoy a cheeseburger or bacontho while you are watching Dominion. Your enjoyment is predicated on fucking DENIAL.

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    Do you want to REALLY cut down on pollution? Stop giving free money to the giant corporations that are causing the most of it.

    I’m not going to be vegan and I’m not going to eat bugs. If the corporations want to stop climate change, the corporations are causing the most of it.

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      8 days ago

      Absolving yourself of responsibility when these factory farming corporations like JBS only exist because you keep buying meat. Nothing will change systematically without the individual change.

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        8 days ago

        they existed long before anyone alive today started buying meat. there is no reason to believe they care if anyone stops.

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        1 year ago

        I’m not eating bugs. Real meat from animals is good for you. stop giving hundreds of billions per year to oil companies

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          8 days ago

          No is suggest you eat bugs when there are great plant-based alternatives such as pulses, peas, beans, lentils, nuts, seeds and whole grains.

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          1 year ago

          Real meat from animals is good for you

          It’s objectively bad for you in the quantities eaten by the west. Cutting out red meat, milk and most of the other animal products from your diet is measurably better for your health.

          Stop giving billions to giant multinational cattle farming companies. It’s just as large an emissions source as oil (which you can also stop funding directly by avoiding driving where possible and going solar-powered electric for the rest)

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            1 year ago

            If I can get meat from a local farm is that ok? Am I excused from causing pain if I know it’s from an actual farm where I can go and pet the cow before eating it? Asking for a friend…

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              8 days ago

              Because the cow is murdered and you’re definitely lying about buying small farm meat when the vast majority of meat is from factory farms. It’s always the Carnist gotcha that is always a lie.

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                1 year ago

                I have access to meat from a farm, this was a real question from my friend.

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    1 year ago

    People can’t think critically over why they prefer meat over vegetables. They just think they do it because hurr durr meat tastes better or you need protines.

    If they actually think about the fact that they have been eating meat for every meal since they were a child they might understand that it is just a habit they have formed.

    I strongly suggest to those people to try to have 1 dinner a week without meat or fish. It has nothing todo about taste and all about habits and what you are used to.

    Try to challenge yourself a little bit and you might get a better perspective over these things.

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      Saying someone is “hurr durr meat tastes better” is wrong is so dismissive of other people and completely insufferable.

      I agree, people should eat less meat. We often have meals in my house that don’t feature meat. But guess what, I think meat tastes better.

      The best way to alienate people and turn them against your point of view is to be an insufferable twat.

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    1 year ago

    This crucially important caveat they snuck in there:

    “Prof Scarborough said: “Cherry-picking data on high-impact, plant-based food or low-impact meat can obscure the clear relationship between animal-based foods and the environment.”

    …which is an interesting way of saying that lines get blurry depending on the type of meat diet people had and/or the quantity vs the type of plant-based diet people had.

    Takeaway from the article shouldn’t be meat=bad and vegan=good - the takeaway should be that meat can be an environmentally responsible part of a reasonable diet if done right and that it’s also possible for vegan diets to be more environmentally irresponsible.

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      1 year ago

      That’s both absolutely true and a massive distraction from the point. An environmentally friendly diet that includes meat is going to involve sustainable hunting not factory farming. In comparison an environmentally friendly vegan diet is staples of meat replacements and not trying to get fancy with it. It’s shit like beans instead of meat, tofu and tempeh when you feel fancy. It means rejecting substitutes that are too environmentally costly such as agave nectar as a sweetener (you should probably use beet or cane based sweetener instead).

      So in short eat vegan like a poor vegan not like a rich person who thinks veganism is trendy

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        “So in short eat vegan like a poor vegan not like a rich person who thinks veganism is trendy”

        But in the context of this conversation, wouldn’t eating like a poor vegan rely heavily on buying products that also have a heavy impact on the environment?

        You would have to buy cheaper products which come from mass produced farms that use TONS and TONS of water! And generate TONS and TONS of carbon emissions during production of those products.

        To be vegan AND advocate for conservation(you can advocate for something no matter your own behavior. That’s the wrong word to use) to claim that your lifestyle is better for the environment than your non-vegan counterparts, you have to have money.