• n2burns@lemmy.ca
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    14 days ago

    The inflation is still high

    Where are you getting that from? That’s not what the numbers say.

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          14 days ago

          That’s sales, not prices. Sales are down because prices are up. For $27k I can buy a Toyota Corolla hybrid and almost a Toyota Prius. Used car prices are slightly down because people are trading in crap with 200k miles.

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            13 days ago

            Inflation is the derivative, it’s a rate of change. It doesn’t say anything about absolute purchasing power. Past inflation contributed to raising prices massively. Currently, inflation is very low, so prices have stabelized to the new, higher level. To get them back down to pre-covid levels, you would need negative inflation (deflation), which most economists agree is a really bad thing. Instead, the goal must be to increase consumer purchasing power, by raising wages.

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        14 days ago

        That isn’t an indicator of current inflation. Past inflation, maybe.

        People confuse “everything is expensive” with “inflation is currently high”. It’s an understandable misunderstanding, and part of the reason why Kamala lost.

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          14 days ago

          It’s because of hysteretic effects from 4 years ago when they stopped production of cars and fewer cars were sold because people were staying home. Then there was a supply chain crisis because of the aforementioned shutdown. It’s inflation because the dollar can buy less than it used to. Things being more expensive is inflation. You’re confusing inflation rate with inflation.

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            14 days ago

            Inflation rate and inflation are the same. You’re confusing inflation with affordability.

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              14 days ago

              That’s literally the definition of inflation. “Inflation is a loss of purchasing power that reflects a rise in prices for goods and services over time.”

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                13 days ago

                That definition is literally describing a change, as rate of change.

                Inflation is a loss of purchasing power

                Over the past year, we haven’t experienced a loss of purchasing power. We have a lack of purchasing power, but we lost it over the 2-3 years prior to the last year.

                a rise in prices for goods and services over time

                This is pretty much the mathematical definition of a rate of change. Like how speed is the rate of change in position over time. After a day of traveling, your position (prices for goods) may be way different than your starting point, but if you’re not currently moving, your speed (inflation) is NIL.

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              13 days ago

              easy, just compare to 5 years ago instead of year-on-year, and that will give you a 24 % inflation.

              Now tell me how can you make life affordable again ? increasing wages by 25 % all at once or deflation at 15 % or so? or an all out civil war or something ?

              This lie that inflation can only go up without wages keeping up is what the governing class helped by their paid for economists use to keep the working docile until shit hits the fans.

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                13 days ago

                I’m not sure why you’re responding to my comment. What you said seems to be completely unrelated to what I said.

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          13 days ago

          I literally just bought these three items earlier today. I spent 8. High end of $20 is either exaggerating, or you’re buying some fancier foods than me.

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            13 days ago

            These are dollar store brands. $4 milk, 4 bread, 4 eggs, $12+ tax. Location matters, so do food deserts. Last I checked, $12 was more than half of twenty.

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              That’s a little under $10 where I am in Seattle. No tax on food here. If I feel like driving a little bit to Target, it’s only $8. I definitely know of food deserts though. The town I grew up in only has Safeway and Walmart. The IGA closed down. Looking at prices, they are about the same as they are here which sucks because the incomes are nowhere near what they are here.

              I’m alright with a week of groceries for the four of us choosing $125/wk but I know that is difficult for some.

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          13 days ago

          As I’ve pointed out elsewhere, that’s not inflation. That’s a lack of purchasing power, not inflation which is a loss of purchasing power. We lost that purchasing power over 2022 and 2023, but the difference in price between November of 2023 and now is relatively small.

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            13 days ago

            Oh neat! Inflation only exists if it happened in the last 12 months. /s

            Accumulative inflation is a thing, and it is up 21.8% since 2020.