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  • ad_on_is@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    So, if they kill in the name of God, why aren’t we calling them “terrorists” by now like we do with any other religious group, i.e. muslims … or … mhhhm… or… wait… do we call anyone else terrorists, besides muslims?

  • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    The notion of a “promised land” is a lie humans tell to themselves to monopolise the resources we all share with all living things.

  • doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 months ago

    I’ve met a guy who no shit said this to me as if it was a justification for Israel’s actions in Gaza.

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      2 months ago

      Anyone mentioning the phrase “3000” years ago is saying it. The Zionist movement is less than 150 years old. The rest of that history is made up.

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      2 months ago

      Which hardly matters when people are taking the homes of people living there currently and killing them. What difference does it make if some of someone’s ancestors centuries ago lived in that general part of the world?

      You could justify European colonialism in Africa under similar logic, on the grounds that since humans evolved there before spreading out to the rest of the world, all Europeans have ancestors that lived on that continent at some point in the past and would merely be “reclaiming” it.

      • Flax@feddit.uk
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        2 months ago

        Although wouldn’t kicking the Jews out of Palestine be doing exactly the same thing all over again?

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          2 months ago

          I don’t know if I’ve seen anyone arguing for that. Even the people wanting to get rid of the state of Israel aren’t usually wanting to remove the people. Prior to Israel forming, Jews and Muslims lived together in relative peace and harmony. They still do in many places.

          The issue comes when one group is told that the land belongs to them specifically, or that the other group is inferior or evil. I don’t think removing Israel is a solution at this point, but it does need to fundamentally change. I don’t see a possibility for an ethno-state to not create these ideas. It needs to just become a state, not a state for jews specifically.

  • JoYo@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Palestinians aren’t natives. they migrated at the same time as everyone else, 1 million people in 10 years.

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      2 months ago

      Yep, it was the only habitable parcel of land in the world with zero inhabitants until 1832. Jewish people and Palestinians both saw this weird chunk of land and realized they could just move there since no one else was there.

      • JoYo@lemmy.ml
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        2 months ago

        that’s exactly what happened… 1 million Arabs migrated in less than 10 years. whatever population was there before them was completely out numbered by the Arabs. the migration was 30x the increase seen at the same time the “baby boomers” were booming. that’s 30x population count, not 30x the percentage.

  • chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    The situation isn’t comparable. The majority of Jews in Israel are not European (or from anywhere else), they’re native Israeli and they trace their roots to Israel back for millennia.

    The problem is not that Israelis want to live there. They have a right to live there. The problem is that they’re depriving Palestinians of their right to live there instead of seeking peaceful coexistence.

    • mightyfoolish@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      We [as in entire human population] can all convert to Judaism but it won’t ever change our ancestry. It’s just a religion.

  • Landslide7648@discuss.tchncs.de
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    2 months ago

    This is dumb propaganda on so many levels. Zionism isn’t a religious movement. Israelis are not primarily white. This equation is just dumb af

  • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 months ago

    fun fact.

    The US army gave people ammunition for free if it was used to kill bison for a period of time.

    Bison almost went extinct.

    Bison were a source of food for the natives.

    I love american history!