• net00@lemm.ee
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    26 days ago

    I knew a comment like this was coming, but unless you can show how microsoft can decrypt my kdbx I stand fully by my current setup.

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      26 days ago

      I don’t think Microsoft can decrypt your DB file, neither do I think Bitwarden can. Encryption happens locally on their open source clients too.

      But I’m not the one disparaging trusting an open source program to securely encrypt passwords, you are.

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      26 days ago

      Could you please show how bitwarden can decrypt a vault that’s locally encrypted by a foss client?

      “Imagine trusting any company with your passwords”

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        25 days ago

        They created the client. In theory, they can have some backdoors. And since you store your files on their side, risk is greater, imo

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          25 days ago

          This is where your lack of understanding of the open source thing is readily apparent to everyone arguing with you. If it was backdoored, many people would be calling that out. In fact, this was one of the exact reasons at the heart of the original concerns leading to this story.

          The fact that the source is available means that we can see exactly how the data is encrypted, allowing assurances to be made independently.

          If nothing else, I trust Bitwarden MORE because of that and I’m happy to pay them for their services since it helps find further development.

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            25 days ago

            If it was backdoored, many people would be calling that out.

            In theory. And not necessarily soon. Don’t forget the context of this thread: we compare bitwarden with keepass, which does not offer to you your password base on their server side.

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              23 days ago

              Trusting one FOSS client good. Trusting different FOSS client bad. Logic where?

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                23 days ago

                That different FOSS client stores your data on their company’s server. It’s an important factor, IMO.

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                  23 days ago

                  Dude, how is bitwarden hosting your own, locally encrypted (in FOSS client) password database any different than using keypass and syncing it however you want?

                  I don’t even use Bitwarden myself, I’m using keepass too, but this attitude is … weird?

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                    23 days ago

                    I find risk slightly bigger when you encrypt your private data with the product of the company and store that encrypted data on servers of the same company.

                    Why: because if they have some backdoor now or plans to introduce it in future, they have all the time in the world to apply that backdoor to your data. Without you knowing it.