• rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    Who are these fucking complete garbage people who can conceive of a world where there are elves, dwarves, Qunari and darkspawn, but trans people are a bridge too far?

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      2 months ago

      I have no idea what woke even means anymore. It seems to mean “social awareness”. Black lives matters kind of a thing. Equal rights for trans people too of course. That doesn’t mean that everyone should support games being forced into having all genders, or races, or include trans people. Or all books or movies should be forced to have those things.

      If you create something, it’s up to you how you want that to be. You are the artist.

      This is not equal to hating trans people, and anyone with some iq points realizes this. We can’t turn every creation into a vehicle for trans rights.

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        2 months ago

        And when the artists chooses to include all genders, or races, or trans people; what would you call the effort to force the artists from removing this from their art?

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          2 months ago

          I didn’t know that was what was happening here. Did the article say that?

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            2 months ago

            That is what the culture war is. The effort to create an environment where publishers and artists have a harder time including aspects labeled “woke” because of a loud minority will harass the people involved, review bomb the products, dominate the discourse with bad faith arguments, and generally minimize the potential enjoyment of anyone who is the intended audience. This is what forcing an agenda upon artists looks like.

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              I think I’m on the other side - I think it’s way too much woke agenda in a lot of popular TV shows we watch. Disney competely wrecked a lot of shows because they kept pushing in gender/race related things that felt competely out of place.

              I couldn’t even watch the acolyte. They wrecked it competely. Many web pages have described what’s wrong with it so won’t repeat that here, but hopefully you already know what I mean.

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                Dude I’m trans and hate the acolyte. It’s cause it’s shit not “woke”

                There’s plenty of “non woke” media that’s shit too

                Turns out if you write nothing but shit you get nothing but shit. This is a capitalism putting restrictions on the artist not our society.

                It’s happened time and time again they force trends and focus tested ideas into the writing room instead of true passion. It will happen no matter the context. Shit media will just be shit media regardless of “wokeness” that’s just a current symptom of how we create media. It’s all for profit not for the sake of art.

                That’s what you actually hate dude.

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                2 months ago

                Out of curiosity, did you like Andor? Because it had all that stuff too but it was well written instead. Just think about how many women are lead roles on Andor for a second.

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        That doesn’t mean that everyone should support games being forced into having all genders, or races, or include trans people

        The fuck are you talking about? No one is forcing anyone to “have all genders or races or include trans people”

        This you bro?

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          I don’t think they meant literally. More in the sense that if you don’t include them you’re suddenly “anti-trans/gay/whatever”.

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            2 months ago

            Who does this? I am only aware of far-right bros angrily making lists of games that have black and/or gay characters.