son when discovers proton
Updated for 2024 and a post Proton world.
Even more true
True Statement, The new macs have better gaming support on linux than macOS
Are we talking about the M3 chips? Or the last intel? Because these are not the same.
Were talking about m serie, the fps may not be amazing but macos cant run windows games like linux can. When every wwdc apple just shows off some game they paid a metric crap ton to get it ported. Which isnt really gaming, if your selection is like 5 games.
That’s so false… That’s like saying the only games Windows can run is Halo and whatever crap is in the Windows Store. Steam has thousands of out-of-the-box compatible games and Crossover helps cover many other games.
Before I got I rebuild my Linux gaming PC (watercooling shenanigans) I gamed for a solid year on MacOS. I played Baldur’s Gate 3 on release for Windows through Crossover, was on my second play through when official Mac support dropped. I’ve played Civ 5 & 6 with friends. I’ve made many cities in Cities Skylines. I played FF7 Remake again. Even for old 32-bit Windows games like Touhou 6 run with minor tweaking.
Crossover is the commercial version of the code behind proton, developed by the same company. It doesn’t work as well on Mac as on Linux. Since “Like Linux but worse” is exactly the point you’re responding to, so you’re pretty much in agreement with them?
What Steamymoomilk had stated previously is that Linux on Apple Silicon is better than macOS for gaming. But Proton support is not only a very new feature to Asahi Linux but also still has issues.
x86 Linux > macOS (with or without Crossover) > Asahi Linux on Apple Silicon macs (what the previous commenter said was better than macOS).
Hey, nobody disputes that.
Doesn’t mean macOS has a comparable portfolio of games it runs. Proton just works better than crossover or Whiskey or whatever.
I guess I didn’t clarify, but there comment from the previous user had stated that on the new M Series chips that running Linux is better for gaming on those devices (ala Asahi Linux).
No doubt Proton on normal x86 Linux PCs is great. My primary desktop and ROG Ally has been painless (aside from some old games that have issues regardless of OS).
But Proton is still buggy on Asahi Linux (support was literally announced a week ago or so). Meanwhile of the games I run on Steam, only a handful needed Crossover or Whiskey for macOS.
Christ. Fr. I was so excited when the Asahi team started to show off Vulkan games on M1 chips. Once it’s had a bit of time in the oven I’m ripping MacOs out of an, otherwise, wonderful device for what I paid for it.
Try Whisky! It uses Wine and has conversion for the Apple graphics layer. It runs some games you can’t get running otherwise.
I knew booze was the only way to make using a Mac bearable.
It works OK. Steam itself is super sluggish under it.
Native Steam + Proton is just better.
How do you do that on a Mac? I didn’t think it supported the proton layer on other platforms.
I don’t, my personal machine runs Linux
My main is also Linux but my wife has a MacBook she still prefers. Still trying to find a good way for her to run a few games.
I haven’t found anything better than Whiskey. It reminds me of the finnicky Wine days before Proton, but so far the problems I encountered are purely cosmetic. Granted, I only tried pixely indie stuff.
Do Windows 8 RT next!
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I think this user has an irrational disdain or hatred of linux that causes them to believe things that aren’t true, or haven’t ever been true. I mean he literally created !linuxsucks@lemmy.world just to post memes complaining.
and banned me!
It’s even worse than you think.
He will become… An engineer.
I can attest to that. Parents tried Linux to prevent me from gaming. Learned to dual boot first, got into security and Linux later and am engineer today. N+=1
parents in the background going “Our plan was a succes”
I miss the Dilbert cartoons.
This is true. I have a completely broken arch linux install right now, wine doesn’t work. Only games I play are OpenTTD and Aisleriot Solitaire on my laptop.
OpenTTD pretty sick tho
Yeah I like it a lot.
With an NVidya card
Is that Tom Scott from the future?
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It’s Linus Torvalds.
Then the kid installs Proton and your keikaku* fails miserably.
*TN: keikaku means plan.
I think the plan is more that he’ll be so busy coonfing to optimize his userspace that he’ll have no time to game.
hmm, how will we stop our child from being on the computer all day?
i know! if we install linux, they won’t be able to play video games!
[child enables the kde wiggly windows]
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUArch Linux’s time to shine
It comes with Steam by default and is automatically used out of the box when a native linux version of the game isn’t found.
Kinda… you do need to enable it in settings.
Only if the game wasn’t tested and verified
I think a friend of mine would be delighted to have his children play video games.
They are only consuming [tiktock, yt, other social media].
I think he rather wants his children beating Red Alert campaign, than cpnsum 10s tiktocks.
Modding your first game, opening condigs ans inis, because key-remapping wasn’t a thing…all the gateways to interact with file system.
I’m hooking mine up on games as soon as they can hold a mouse and a keyboard, airgap the PC.
Learning how to edit config.sys to get sound working without internet help was a rite of passage for many.
We didn’t
Plan failed, the kid read the man pages and stackoverflow
