• HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone
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    this is ok. minetest was an awful name.

    for those of you without the patience to read a blogpost, the new name’s actually a bit of wordplay.

    “Luanti” is a wordplay on the Finnish word luonti (“creation”) and the programming language Minetest Luanti employs for games and mods, Lua. The goal was to avoid yet another plain English word (good luck finding something unique…) and highlight the core principles of the project. The fusion of celeron55’s Finnish nationality and the platform’s focus on content creation resulted in the birth of “Luanti”.

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      IMO, the worst thing about “Minetest” is that it sounded like it was just a test creation, a prototype or experiment. It’s certainly well beyond that now. The announcement introduction mentions people associate it with being a Minecraft clone or alpha release, but even further, to me the name initially gave me the impression it was [still] someone’s small hobby project. ‘Luanti’ is much better.

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        On this note, another thing I appreciate is what they said about “Free” and “Libre”: those names are great for saying “This is a free/libre/open clone of [x]”, and that’s what I’ll think when I see it. Software like LibreOffice aims to support Microsoft Office documents, OpenRTC2 and OpenTTD are for people who want to see those games pretty-faithfully cloned, even if extended. Luanti is not OpenMinecraft.

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        Agree 100%. I always though the name suggested it wasn’t quite a complete game. In fact at first I didn’t think it was a game at all.

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      No, it is something that has been discussed for quite some time. No one could decide on a good name until now

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          Since Minecraft blew up with 12 year olds using potatoe hardware I think the criteria required would be:

          1. 12 year old thinks name is great and can spell it

          2. it can run on a potatoe

          Who wants to volunteer to collect this data

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          You could argue but you would be wrong. The name gas changed. There is still some work needed to move domains but that’s minor.

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    Oh thank god. Minetest was the worst name, and the game is actually pretty cool. It definitely deserves a cool name, and Luanti sounds cool.

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    I actually like the new name. It seems like when a community project renames it always is something even worse than the original name. This is a great name that doesn’t sound silly to say out loud.

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    Oh man, I remember this from years ago when the only 1-up on Minecraft it had, was that I could run it at 60 FPS, infinite chunks in all directions, no extreme lag spikes while generating the map, and further view distance.

    Zero mods back then, so I’m happy to see the mod support!

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      Just tell her that you told them your wife didn’t like the name so they changed it.

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      I’ve seen it a few times in passing and always assumed it was like, a tech demo or proof of concept.

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        It initially was that. Also the name wasn’t meant to stick around forever.

        But, out of a sudden, between updates, not even the new website URLs ready?

        I don’t follow Minetest development that closely anymore, but last time I checked there were no issues or pull requests on their GitHub, nor something official regarding a name change in the forums.

        This feels like there are just a bunch of people haphazardly deciding there is a new name now.

        • Norah - She/They@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          Here’s a post from May in the Minetest Luanti forums discussing the name change: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=425205#p425205

          I’m not going to search further to find the original discussion, but another user in this thread mentions seeing talk of this about a year ago. I agree that it’s not very professional for the new website to be in a less than functional state, but it feels like excitement or decision fatigue may be the culprit, not a rushed process. Then again, it’s an open source video game, not everything has to be “professional” all the time. Meanwhile, enjoy this meme from luanti.org:

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      It IS a terrible name. But it also is an over one decade old brand.

      It will be hard to propagate the new name and have it as recognizable as “Minetest”.

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      Anything is better than minetest which sounded like a hastily written debugging mod for Minecraft

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    I don’t really like the new name yet, but it’s a lot better than Minetest so I really can’t complain.

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    I like the meme.

    I just wish they would merge the “truly infinite worlds” branch. The horizontal limits are to tight for this kind of game.

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    hope they improve upon it, the old (when the banning was implemented) version of minetest was horrible. I’ll be trying it soon :)

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      Minetest has been more a platform for making games on than a single game for at least a decade, since they added lua scripting. Seems like you’re outraged over nothing with no real understanding of what Luanti has been and aims to be.

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      Cool so, you linked to some git repositories that haven’t been updated in 4-5 years, and looking at their current website there seems to be some sort of crypto involved now.

      Edit: I meant to say as well, that they appear to have closed their source, despite the “open” in the name.

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      It’s finnish, so like it’s written. Foreign concept for english speakers, I know.

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        It is quite literally a foreign concept to anyone who only speaks English. That’s how foreign languages work.

        How is the word pronounced though?

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          I’m a finn, so the only advice I can give is that it’s pronounced like luanti in finnish.

          Not very useful, I know, sorry. Nau ai häv tu kou präktis mai rälli inglish.

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    This is good news! Anyone here played it recently? How far has the game come in terms of content compared to Minecraft or Vintage Story?

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      Mobs kinda suck, because the engine has no native mob API.

      There are great mapgens who take advantage of the 1000’s of blocks world height.

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        You can use the mod lib from contentdb. Also it is worth pointing out that they are moving towards a subgame focus not a mod focus. The original game has been discontinued and isn’t preinstalled. You install a game like Asuna to get gameplay and content.

        Of course you can still use Minetest game as a base for mods. I do that for simple worlds.

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          No, mobs, not mods. Monsters, animals, NPC’s. The lua libs are nice and all but they are always glitchy in hitbox and position.

          Edit: you meant the second sentence? My bad.

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      it’s just a framework, it depends on the mods you use. you can use mineclone2 if you want all the features of minecraft

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        Btw, mineclone2 also rebranded as Voxelibre, months ago, and for the same reasons. Voxelibre now actively moves away from copying Minecraft exactly.
        If you want the closest copy (and my personal recommendation) check out Mineclonia.

  • Did they ever fix the game having a maximum map size of like 10.000 by 10.000? That limitation always seemed to put it at a disadvantage compared to Minecraft, for larger communities

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      Currently, the world dimensions are larger than that (according to the wiki):

      “Minetest’s world is a huge cube with a side length of ca. 60000 blocks. Each dimension (X, Y and Z) ranges from −30912 to 30927.”